In my estimation, the following is a conglomeration of why the Jets are in dire straits. Bad news is: it's not likely to change. Brian Schottenheimer has to go. Period. This isn't arguable. This isn't debatable. I could quote time of possession, lack of flow, simplicity and predictability, misuse of personnel and lack of making adjustments until the cows come home with 40 examples of each. I don't have to. If you can't see how Schottenheimer is the #1 problem with this team, and how it makes all 3 phases of the game miserable, then, as I said in another thread: please stop watching football because you have no clue what's going on. Sanchez is still behind on the learning curve. This stems from Schottenheimer. However, one thing to note is that whenever the Jets go into no-huddle, as others have pointed out, Sanchez gets a lot better. But, at the end of the day, I agree with others who don't see him being an elite level QB in this league. He can be serviceable, and at times pretty damn decent, but he will never be an elite QB in the NFL. However, we COULD be fine with Sanchez at the helm if we had an offensive coordinator who knew how to game plan in such a way that could make him successful. We don't have that. We have the opposite. Wayne Hunter. God damnit does Wayne Hunter suck. Damn near every play that gets blown up on the line is his fault. I can't count how many times Sanchez has been sacked because of Hunter being blown by and Hunter standing there afterwards staring at the pile like a moron. We have to replace him this offseason. The clock is ticking. If we don't get it together in the next year or so, our window to make and attempt to win a superbowl is going to close. LT has maybe another year in him, if this year isn't last? Maybe? We have enough players that we won't have the cash to resign. We have guys that should be in their playing prime right now and that won't last forever either. This team was, for the most part, very well built and should be capable of at least making it to the superbowl. That situation doesn't last forever. Unless you're the fucking patriots. Fucking balls wrapped in barbed wire do I fucking hate them. I could go on a little bit, but I think that's plenty. In short, all of our problems stem from a lack of a coherent offenseive gameplan. Until that changes, we'll be very lucky to get a wildcard spot this year.
The year is over as far as the grand prize. They can make the playoffs if a few teams decide to throw games. But they are never beating a good team on the road.
on the surface, yes. if you dig a little deeper, today, and even moreso in previous losses, the offense's inability to put together any sort of sustained and consistent effort puts the defense in too many losing positions. Even tonight, hell I think Collinsworth even talked about it: Jets turn the ball over, Patriots go no huddle, and the defense barely has time to get their act together. That happens too often to this team. On top of that, too many quick 3 and outs wear down the defense over the course of the game.
This game had fuck-ups all over: 1. [Insert DB/LB here] vs Gronkowski - We couldn't stop him no matter what the defense threw out there. Gronkowksi killed this team today. Get ready to see some huge money handed out to a safety in this offseason. 2. Has anyone seen D'Brickashaw Ferguson?: Whoever was wearing #60 tonight was owned by Andre "WHO?!" Carter. We can bitch about Wayne Hunter all we want but Brick shouldn't be a 4-sack liability to a street free agent. That shit wasn't helping anybody. 3. Joe McKnight on punt returns - I'm not going to understand this decision no matter how many times someone tries to explain the excuses. He has had few opportunities to return punts this season and he's made some bad decisions with the chances he's had. The risk was too high and the reward was minimal in a situation where we were only down by 3 at the time. 4. Wayne Hunter - I think I've said enough 5. Pass rush - It simply wasn't there. Maybin had a shot to take Brady down and whiffed completely, Pace got in on Brady's feet right as he delivered a great pass to [white guy whose name I'm too tired to remember], and the times the defense flushed Brady out of the pocket served only to allow the Patriots WRs/TEs to get away from the coverage. 6. Consistently abandoning the run - This shit has to fucking stop and I mean this for every game. We have 3 RBs active on the roster and yet we keep ditching what could be a productive unit. That's all I can think of right now, probably mentioned already.
All of this is connected, you can't expect the defense to hold up all game when they are playing to avoid a blowout. The defense did its job in the first half, held brady to 6 points in 29 minutes and it would have only been 6 if the offense didn't take a bonehead TO that gave the patriots an eternity to score. If our offense could actually stay on the field and give the D a rest once in a while maybe they would be playing at that same intensity that held the pats to 6 points. If we jumped out to a quick two score lead, we win that game, pure and simple, you cannot win in this league when your defense is constantly playing just to keep the team from being blownout.
There's no window to win a Super Bowl on this team. We've had part of the puzzle each season since Mangini left, and truth be told we had part of the puzzle in 2008 also. The problem is that when you keep going for broke and trading up draft picks and trading picks for vets to help for a year eventually the roster thins out and you can't manage the grind that an NFL season creates. When you do all that consolidating without getting a strong pass rusher or two and maintaining the offensive line it really doesn't matter what else you do. You're not going to win a Super Bowl with weakness in the trenches and the Jets have had key weaknesses in the trenches on one side of the ball or the other for this entire "window" that has now gone away. Kris Jenkins cost us 2 picks. He's gone. Braylon Edwards cost us two picks. He's gone too. Shonn Green cost us 3 picks. Did we get value for them? Obviously the Revis picks were well spent but you can't hit one out of four and expect to be ahead at the end of the day. I'll defend the Sanchez trade forever because you have to go get a QB before you can win in this league but he also cost us 3 picks. I wish this team was better but honestly it was never built properly to actually compete for a Super Bowl. It was built to sell PSL's in the new stadium and so every time there was a sexy move to make the Jets made it to look better for a few seasons even if they didn't have the big picture focused right to get a trophy. Long story made short: we probably saw the beginning of the end of the Tannenbaum era in NY tonight. Hopefully it won't be the end of the Ryan era as well but the Jets are unlikely to get back to an AFC championship game anytime soon and it's hard to see how he is going to manage the declining talent base that the Jets are stuck with at this point.
The thing that pisses me off the most is that Holmes, Plaxico, Keller, Kerley and company were covered all night by defensive backs who probably couldn't play for a good college team at this point let alone in the NFL and the backs all had fumble fingers tonight. I mean can't any of those guys play this game well enough to get open and catch the ball against a defense as bad as the Pats are right now? If the answer is yes then Schotty needs to be fired immediately if the Jets want to have any hope of salvaging the season and their young QB. If the answer is no then god help us moving forward because the offense looked pitiful tonight and most of that was not on Sanchez it was on the guys who are supposedly proven.
the offense was definitely inconsistent but it's not as if we couldn't move the ball down the field. we did get 22 first downs and have three drives over 65 yards. there were plenty of open receivers ... but let's face it ... Sanchez has always been very hot and cold. he'll go 7 for 8 on one drive and then miss his next 5 passes.
The veil got pulled off a lot of players on the Jets tonight. Plaxico Burress is a 34 year old receiver with declining skills. He'll never be a dominant receiver against a good defense in the playoffs. Santonio Holmes is a system player who relies heavily on slants and quick hitters to get his catches. he was covered all night by a terrible secondary except in the routes that were specifically designed to get him a narrow window right at the start of the play. Dustin Keller is a solid receiving tight end but he's good not great and he got taken away all night also. Kerley's too young to know what he's worth but the other guys need a very strong QB to make them plus players and Sanchez needs them to be very strong to make him a plus at this point. It's a nasty conundrum that is likely to define the Jets for seasons to come except in the case of Plaxico who is probably close to done. The offensive line is a weakness overall with a great player in the middle and a declining talent base after that. Ferguson is a good left tackle but he can't handle having Slauson next to him and maintain top play. There's too much leakage on that side. Moore is still a good run blocker but his pass-blocking has always been the weaker of his skills and having Hunter next to him is absolutely killing him. Hunter is not even a replacement level player, he's just a flatout mistake that has cost the franchise dearly already in the regression in Sanchez play under the constant pressure that comes from his side. This line is going to need to be largely rebuilt over the next season or two but that probably will not happen until Mike Tannenbaum is fired. On the defensive side the Jets just have too many holes. The front seven is serviceable but not a lot more than that and the lack of a pass rush is really starting to kill the Jets slowly. The secondary has a hole at free safety and even the nickel package was getting chewed up by Brady once he figured out what he had to do to avoid pressure, which was basically count the number of blitzers and take his time if the Jets weren't blitzing and throw the ball to a tight end in the middle of the field if they were blitzing. Special teams again let the Jets down with a key turnover that probably cost them the game. the Jets were in it, however painfully, until McKnight put the ball on the ground and then they were never really in it again after that. It's just really painful to watch this thing start to crumble again.
Schotty threw 2 ints including that pick 6 Schottys playcalling somehow affects the o linemen inability to block Schottys play calling somehow caused the defense to get shredded by Brady in the 2nd half Schotty can't stop the run Schotty is the reason for the mess of our special teams tonight If you disagree with what i said then you need to stop watching football
What evidence is there that Schotty is any good at what he does? Do we have any evidence at this point that Schotty is a good offensive coordinator? If not why is he running the Jets offense for the 6th season? Somewhere in here I want to see one of his offenses clearly perform at a level that suggests that he is deserving of the job. So far, except for 10 games in 2008 I have not seen that.
are you serious about Plaxico? I'm not sure what your watching. the past three games it looks like the rust is off and he's getting back to the player he was. without having any stats in front of me I bet he's been more productive than most receivers in the league the past three weeks, and he's getting it done in the Red Zone.. and that's why we signed him, isn't it?? And if not for Holmes tripping over his own feet on the first drive he would have had a TD himself. I'm not saying we lit up the scoreboard but it's also not as bad as you're painting it. we had 22 first downs and almost 400 yards of offense and most of it was not in garbage time. Sacks and turnovers killed us tonight alot more than the Pats pass defense. When you're constantly facing 3rd and 15 and the D-line is in the QBs face, it's a little hard to complete passes down the field.
Br4dw4y5ux:There's no window to win a Super Bowl on this team. We've had part of the puzzle each season since Mangini left, and truth be told we had part of the puzzle in 2008 also. The problem is that when you keep going for broke and trading up draft picks and trading picks for vets to help for a year eventually the roster thins out and you can't manage the grind that an NFL season creates. When you do all that consolidating without getting a strong pass rusher or two and maintaining the offensive line it really doesn't matter what else you do. You're not going to win a Super Bowl with weakness in the trenches and the Jets have had key weaknesses in the trenches on one side of the ball or the other for this entire "window" that has now gone away. Kris Jenkins cost us 2 picks. He's gone. Braylon Edwards cost us two picks. He's gone too. Shonn Green cost us 3 picks. Did we get value for them? Obviously the Revis picks were well spent but you can't hit one out of four and expect to be ahead at the end of the day. I'll defend the Sanchez trade forever because you have to go get a QB before you can win in this league but he also cost us 3 picks. I wish this team was better but honestly it was never built properly to actually compete for a Super Bowl. It was built to sell PSL's in the new stadium and so every time there was a sexy move to make the Jets made it to look better for a few seasons even if they didn't have the big picture focused right to get a trophy. Long story made short: we probably saw the beginning of the end of the Tannenbaum era in NY tonight. Hopefully it won't be the end of the Ryan era as well but the Jets are unlikely to get back to an AFC championship game anytime soon and it's hard to see how he is going to manage the declining talent base that the Jets are stuck with at this point. That sums it up beautifully.
