Too bad nobody asked Rex what exactly moores role was today. I'm sure we will get a more clear answer to this in the next two weeks.
While a lot of what we did offensively was good, we continued to do a lot that was bad, Schitty not nearly out of the woods, not by a long shot: 1. Stupid penalties. 2. Predictable playcalling. 3. Head-scratching INT. 4. Too many check-downs. 5. Insufficient patterns on 3rd-and-long. 6. And, of course, the Crunchtime Playcalling From Hell with only 2:00 left to play and 10 short yards to a game-clinching 10 point lead we don't take the time to actually try to score. Sure, killing the clock is critical too, but get the damn TD from the distance between my refrigerator and the kitchen table will you please. SAR I
How are points 1,3 and 4 on Schotty? Its Schottys fault that Mangold had a bad hold and Sanchez lobbed up a pick to the defender? Which part of the playcalling was predictable? I thought this was Schottys best called game since the NE playoff game. We actually looked like a functioning offense. Back to ground and pound (successfully) setting up Mark in the play action. On the last series, they went for the win. You have to commend him for that. You run the ball to make them waste their TO, and then try for the kill. On 3rd down, Mark made the right call; no one was open so he took the sack instead of forcing it.
Absolutely. Look at the Pats first SB run, Brady barely did anything. He was nothing more than a game manager. Even in their 2nd SB run, he put up average stats (minus the SB win over Carolina which he played remarkably well in), and won mostly do to their defense.
I liked this one play when we needed a first down and the route was designed so the WR (don't remember who... keller?) received the ball AFTER the first down mark. That was refreshing.
MarkyMark How are points 1,3 and 4 on Schotty? Its Schottys fault that Mangold had a bad hold and Sanchez lobbed up a pick to the defender? Penalties: A well-coordinated team is coached in the fundamentals like where to line up and the technique that doesn't require holding. Airball INT: A well-coordinated QB has more passing options on each play, doesn't have to lock on to a single WR and force the ball where it shouldn't be. Check Downs: See above. Something's really wrong when talent like Holmes, Burress, Keller, Cotchery, Mason, Kurley, et al can't get open and our QB has no choice but to dump-off as often as he does. I see lesser QB's with lesser targets complete pass after pass to TE's and WR's and not RB's. Ask me why. Which part of the playcalling was predictable? I thought this was Schottys best called game since the NE playoff game. We actually looked like a functioning offense. Back to ground and pound (successfully) setting up Mark in the play action. When everyone in my section is screaming "3rd and 8, draw play!" and it happens, I'd say we're a tad predictable. The Chargers knew on 1st and goal from the 10 with 2:00 left that there was no chance that Schitty would throw. So did everyone else. On the last series, they went for the win. You have to commend him for that. You run the ball to make them waste their TO, and then try for the kill. On 3rd down, Mark made the right call; no one was open so he took the sack instead of forcing it. Getting the TD ended the game as much as running off the clock and burning the timeouts did. Another OC, a more aggressive OC, would surprise the Chargers on first down and just get it over with. Instead, we gave Rivers the ball with 1:40 left and had to trust our D. It worked, I get it, but it doesn't mean it's good offensive coordination. SAR I
Straw man. Didn't make any of those comparisons at all. I simply agreed with NDmicks line about Brady.
So penalties are the sole responsibility of the OC? Schottys responsibility is to teach an all pro center how not to hold? OK. So Schotty calls the play, and its his fault Sanchez locks onto one receiver instead of looking elsewhere? Ok again. The check downs, again its Schottys fault the receivers can't get open? You're aware SD has a pretty good secondary right? Would you rather Mark squeeze throws into areas that can't be completed? You're entire premise is inherently flawed. Your simply looking for reasons to blame Schotty, but unfortunately there were barely any today (and this is coming from a Schotty hater). Give credit where credit is due. So cherry picking a 3rd and 8 draw play proves the playcalling was predictable, but not the other 55+ plays we ran? Also, it wasn't a draw, it was a shovel pass (if my memory serves correctly). You shouldn't throw on 1st and 2nd down when trying to kill the clock in that position. Greene was running at over a 6+ average. Mark didn't need to be put in a position to make a mistake. This was fundamental clock killing strategy. You throw on first down and its incomplete, then people get on Schotty for not killing clock (probably you). It was a completely sound strategy, especially with the way Greene ran all day.
Mark Sanchez was a strong college prospect with "consistent accuracy" and "terrific field vision and progression ability" mentioned as among his biggest strengths. As a Jet, he's lacked a high completion percentage and locks-onto receivers. Ya think coaching might have something to do with that? Every QB that Schitty ever managed improved markedly after separating from Brian. Brees (Super Bowl Champion), Rivers (All Pro), Pennington (Division Champion, NFL Comeback POTY), Favre (NFC Championship Game, MVP Finalist). Mark's best days are ahead of him; as soon as Martyball II leaves we can finally see them. Our goal line offense is horrible on the ground. When we need it, when the opposition knows it's coming, we can't get 10 yards in 3 tries. Not going to happen. A brilliant OC who's trying to shake his terrible reputation would have had the courage to let his hot QB throw at least one safe corner fade to 10 or 17, preferably on first down. Brian Schittenheimer is a holdover from the Mangini regime, a direct descendant of the "play-not-to-lose" Edwards regime. He is the problem. There's too much past precident to ignore, too much known underperforming talent to ignore. Yes, you're usually a hater. Yes, today was a good day for Brian. No, you shouldn't take your foot off his throat yet. Want to impress me? Go take the next two weeks and study the Bills and Patriots defenses and design the best offensive gameplans in NFL history. Then coach your players properly, have them execute it, come out of the New England home game with the crowd chanting "Bri-an! Bri-an! Bri-an!" in joy as the Jets smoke the AFC East's best and improve their record to a respectable 6-3. SAR I
It's not a coincidence that everybody is happy with the playcalling today, and that today was also the first game this season where the offensive line really played well. You can get a lot more done when you can move the ball on the ground and the QB isn't running for his life on every play.
Frankly though, I was a little surprised to see Plax gets no chance whatsoever during the last drive.
Good job today on the offense. Not sure what went on but if this is rex's influence im pleased. Notice how those terribly designed plays were absent and the trickery was virtually non-existant. I thought i did spy tge end around hb up the middle ( which makes no sense because you are just bringing an extra defender into tge box) but otherwise the plays were well desigbed and the guys looked comfortable.
I was just happy Mark was throwing it downfield even though they were incomplete most times. pass to set up the run. thank you.
The only truly terrible play call I saw was when they got near the goalline and I think it was second down, it was a quick play action designed to hit Kerley over the middle right away.. damn near intercepted. The only other nitpick was at the end, the last play from the 3 yard line before the FG.. EVERYONE knew that play was coming. I think they should have definitely at least had Plax on the field to be a diversion.. at that point after 3 TD's the Chargers would have had to double him and make things a little easier elsewhere on the field. Other than that, I thought Shittenheimer called a great game. My biggest gripe with him isn't always the actual playcalling, it's more about the play design and that he doesn't seem to have ANY clue how to attack a defense. It seems like every week the game plan is totally fucked from play 1. This week things looked a lot more fluid and they knew how and where they wanted to attack. Definitely a well-coached game.. Which begs the question.. how much of an influence did Tom Moore have exactly since this was the first week he was with the team? Also, how big of a hand did Rex take in the offense this week leading up to the game?
Should have been picked off. It was that horrible. Like I said above, I just have to wonder what they were doing on the last series. Having Plax and Keller split up on both ends would stretch the defense (and force Chargers D to double up on Plax) then having Kerley and Santonio in the slot (one on the right, the other on the left) would stretch the defense yet more, no? (The situation screams for slant - Chargers would be all worried about jump balls and fades to the outside.) It wasn't typical Schottenheimer game, that much I can agree.
