Brainlessly bash former Jet employee, Brian Schottenheimer

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  1. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I have said this before and I will stand by my comment, the Defense and Special Teams carried this team to those games, if the Jets had Callahan as their OC they win one or back to back SB.
     
  2. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I don't think too many would argue with that as a whole.


    The defense letting down in both afccg's should be pointed at as the main reason the jets didn't go to a superbowl the last two seasons.

    Cant be seen as a disproportionate reason for the success without taking the blame for the failures as well.
     
  3. TNJet

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    Any one who defends Brian is brainless, that should be the new title of this thread.
     
  4. Biggs

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    I agree the D carried us in 09 but I don't think a better OC with a rookie QB wins the division. Without that the route to the SB is pretty much the same and our D got an ass whipping in the second half by Manning after the O got the lead.

    Last year the D was not great and the O while not great did win some games. Again we weren't winning the division last year with NE having the year they did. Again the conference final the D pretty much stunk for half the game.

    In both cases we lost pretty decisively because of defensive breakdowns to teams that didn't win a SB.
     
  5. papapump

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    I gave him the benefit of the doubt before. Boy was I wrong, he sucks! I can't wait till he is gone. No mas.
     
  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The real problem with the Jets at the end of the last two seasons was that the defense just wasn't up to par with the challenges in the Jets path.

    2009 the Jets had one of the better pass defenses in NFL history, maybe ranking in the top 10 or so, and they were beat up by the time they faced Peyton Manning who flayed them in the second half of the AFCCG.

    So the preparation for 2010 included heavily beefing the pass defense, a process that made me ask what would happen if they faced the Steelers or the Ravens at the end in 2010.

    The Jets handled Manning and handled Brady with their beefed up pass defense and then got trampled by the Steelers in the AFCCG.

    On defense the Jets keep beefing for the last war and then having to fight the next one.
     
  7. SAR I

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    +1.

    Schitty is the Jets problem. Every QB he's ever worked with has gone on to bigger success after Brian was out of the mix:

    Drew Brees - Super Bowl Champion, MVP.

    Philip Rivers - Pro Bowler.

    Chad Pennington - AFC Division Champion, NFL Comeback Player of the Year

    Brett Favre - NFC Championship Game, NFL MVP Finalist

    Please Lord, let Brian Schittenheimer leave so Mark Sanchez can go on to greatness.

    SAR I
     
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  8. sg3

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    welcome to the land of relative Jet message board freedom
     
  9. JCotchrocket

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    Perfectly said.

    It's as if Rex has said after each of the last two seasons, "Hey, you're not gonna beat me the same way twice." It seems reactionary. It may be too small a sample size, though; he's always been fond of corners, and I can't argue that Kyle Wilson or Muhammad Wilkerson weren't BPA's.
     
  10. jwmann2

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    The Jets have as good of a running game as anyone in the league. When you run, you control the game. Their secondary is great as well. However, I agree, if a certain gameplan isn't working, time to change it up. Man, I miss Cotchery.
     
  11. SAR I

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    I see it a bit differently.

    I see Mike Tannenbaum acting as if he's Bill Belichick and thinking he can magically plug any hole with someone and have Rex's motivational skills get him to outperform his abilities.

    I think we're a team that can't run anymore but can't admit it. So they try and try and waste downs until there's no choice left but to pass and then things start to improve. We've seen this slowly develop, from Rex's first season to his third.

    We just need to trust our quarterback. Simple as that. There are multiple years that the Patriots couldn't run the ball yet won the Lombardi. Not saying Sanchez is Brady, but we at least need to try to find out. Let him loose, just throw. All day. Don't stop. Throw.

    SAR I
     
  12. Footballgod214

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    A true chef can make a delicious dinner with what's in the cupboard.
     
  13. SAR I

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    The fear is that that Julia Child is in New England, and the person we've got trying to make-do with spoiled ingredients is Sam Wyche.

    SAR I
     
  14. Zach

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    You can't make a chicken salad out of chicken shit, no matter how talented you are.
     
  15. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Bill Belichik can't even do this. The Patriots are completely dependent on Tom Brady at this point and if he goes down they're an 8-8 team at best.

    Belichik used to be a defensive genius who put together great units from talent that was not necessarily the best. These days he just leans on Brady as his defensive units get worse and worse.
     
  16. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    No. It needs to be balanced. This offense can't handle 45 passes a game.

    And Brady wasn't the focal point of the Pats dynasty* back in the day. The running game was ranked higher than the passing game twice, and the defense was the reason why they closed out games and won it all.

    Those defenses were very, very good with great personnel.
     
  17. SAR I

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    True, but if this year's Jets are weakened defensively and inept in the running game, what else can we try to win with?

    I'd argue that a passing offense with a battle-tested playoff quarterback featuring elite WR's and an explosive TE and an older-but-effective pass catching RB is the only area of the team that isn't being exploited and could bail us out of our current situation.

    Not saying this is how the team was built or that it'll work. But if the D and the running game continue to remain stalled, it seems to be the next logical course of action. Attempt to make the pass open up the run, create some lengthy drives, let the defense stay rested and ready.

    SAR I
     
  18. JetRizing89

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    scotty has to play more to the teams strengths
     
  19. Flyboy

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    But he doesn't, hence the hate.
     
  20. Ulrich

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    What was really encouraging about today's play-calling is that he did take advantage of the team's strengths: lots of passes to Plax in the red zone especially, 3 TDs 1 int. How many times did we take advantage of Braylon's size and vertical? It was maddening, all the more so as we had abysmal RZ stats.

    Mainly we've seen that if the running game is a threat, we can make the passing game work even with a rookie, a slow ex-con, and an inconsistent TE.
     

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