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    Ohhhhh. They were talking about Ryan Mathews. I was wondering who this Matthews fellow was.

    Funny that legler didn't recognize the sarcasm in your "he sucks" post. You know, since you know how to spell his name properly and all.
     
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    I only know how to spell his name the right way because I'm a "resident scouting expert" ...
     
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    You are great at spelling but not so good at catching sarcasm. I know that Electric absolutely loves Ma"t"hews. A couple years ago he couldn't stop talking about him on the draft boards. Wasn't that his avatar for a while?
     
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    That was actually César Chávez. Silly racist.
     
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    Then your response was even less funny and even more retarded. Happy?
     
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    I would have thought the bucket of grapes was a dead giveaway.
     
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    Funny that the nitwits at ESPN are saying that the defense is in decline. How exactly? How many players do we have that are over the age of 30? We have youth on the line, linebacking core and youth at the cornerback position.
     
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    Butt buddy defender strikes again.
     
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    I made a completely obvious joke and you clearly didn't get it...because it two separate threads, you said something retarded about it.

    ...wish I could say I'm surprised by this.
     
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    Listen...this is why this game is a "get well" game in the schedule. They made some early mistakes that were reminiscent of the early struggles, but in the second half they cleaned it up and put it on ice, and gained some confidence going forward.
     
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    I'm listening!!!!
     
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    sadly Sanchez missed him wide open on a 3rd down play that would have given us 7. Sanchez certainly plays much better when there is a rhythm on offense but he is still making mistakes that an elite QB wouldn't. I promise you most vet QB's see Keller wide open standing there all alone. He seems to be playing scared, too fast. Kid needs to slow down and relax. Not every team has the pass rush of Baltimore.
     
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    The D just isn't dominant like it was in 09 or parts of last year so they want to make bold statements and say our D isn't good or whatever.

    What these "experts" fail to realize is that this year is a little bit of a rebuilding year for our defense, especially with Bryan Thomas going down. And we'll still end up in the top 10.

    We lost Jenkins (who barely played last year anyway), Shaun Ellis, Pryce, Taylor, and Coleman, who were all pretty big contributors last season, plus Thomas two weeks ago.. and replaced them all on the fly with young players, like Kenrick Ellis, Wilkerson, Kyle Wilson stepping into pretty much a starting role, Pitoitua, Dixon, Maybin, Westerman.

    Maybe the D is taking a small step back this year, but the end result will be them taking 2 steps forward later this year and then definitely next year.
     
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    I think that game fucked up his internal clock and it still being rewound.

    Ray Lewis and co. have been doing that for a long time.
     
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    The guy is very streaky in terms of accuracy; I'm starting to think that's how it will always be. When he has it rolling, the good throws come in bunches. Unfortunately, the same can be said about his poor passes. That's why it's very important that Schitty's script involves easy completions early.
     
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    You're right. We still couldn't run the ball today. We have 1 guy who can make a play in the passing game in Holmes, maybe 2 when Keller decides to catch the ball. And Sanchez continues to play fairly well but far from great.

    I've always trusted the defense, even with our recent issues against the run. The defense will be fine. Even if it takes a half-step back against the run, it will still be a very good defense.

    But this offense is ugly. The 3-and-outs to start the game are just embarrassing, and the Dolphins threw in the towel when they got behind.
     
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    I think the in-decline comment was directed at the fact that the Jets defense can't stop the run this year and that key positions in doing that are getting up in years. Having your NT and LILB both be 31+ and stopping the run suddenly be a problem suggests a decline. Ditto for the pass rush, which is not good, and Pace who is the Jet's best pass-rushing OLB also at 31.

    Remember what happened to the Jet's D when Lewis and Jones both declined at the same time. Even having Shaun Ellis and John Abraham in the mix didn't change the fact that the Jets needed a shakeup on that side of the ball and the entire LB corps was replaced by 2004. Jason Ferguson was replaced by 2005.
     
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    You keep mentioning when Lewis and Jones declined at the same time.

    Well, Pouha is a young 32, having been drafted at 26 after a Mormon mission. We drafted his replacement already in Ellis, assuming he can turn into a decent player.

    The LB position will be a little more tricky, but we have Harris at one ILB spot locked up long-term. He's young. We're getting a look at the OLB prospects on the roster with Thomas's injury, hopefully we'll find out if one of them can be an answer. We definitely need to draft an LB or 2; Thomas's injury necessitates that, but unless Scott, Pace, and Thomas all decline at the same time, we should be okay. That could happen, but it's unlikely all 3 fall off next season.

    Really, we just need a deep draft where we can grab some LBs, a WR, a TE, some OL, and a safety.
     
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    One of the easier positions to replace on defense is ILB. One of the most difficult is NT. The Jets are possibly halfway there. Ellis (who you labeled bust already) looks like he has a bunch of talent. So it is entirely possible that the Jets have the most difficult positions on a 3-4 team to fill. It takes a year or 2 for NT's to learn the position.

    I think the Jets are keenly aware of their defensive deficiencies. If there is one thing Rex is good for, it is forward thinking both in personnel and play calling on D. If he can ever get halfway there on offense the Jets will have something special in their head coach.
     
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    I get that Ryan thinks he has this under control but every tailback the Jets have faced so far have told us that he does not. That's just like 2003 when the Jets could not get off the field for their life against any offense with a pulse.

    The Jets had a ton of talent in that front seven but they also had some key aging pieces and that's why that defense looked so ragged that year. So far this year the Jets have looked ok on defense against dead meat offenses and not ok against the rest.

    Even when the Jets looked good against the teams with replacement level QB's they have been getting run on.

    This team is on pace to surrender 2,112 yards on the ground this season and their 3 losses have all been at least in part due to their absolute inability to stop the run when they needed to.
     

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