When it comes down to Sanchez, I think it's a confidence issue. I can tell how he's going to do before a game even starts. If you see him loose and warming up having a few jokes with the guys he usually plays strong. Whenever he looks like someone hit his dog before the game (45-3 one example) he plays extremely unfocused. I think it comes down to being a mental thing. There are games where he makes every throw and shreds defenses but then you have games like last week when everything goes wrong, it snowballs. The Schotty argument in my opinion goes as this, Schotty is a huge problem because his whole tenure here the offense has always looked unprepared and the execution of the plays have been awful, but I feel like Rex should have taken action and made sure these guys are coming out prepared if it meant getting on Schotty's ass and taking the reigns over on that side of the ball too. It's truly a weird situation on the offensive side of the ball, but I hope we finally get something figured out because we should not be this unprepared and inconsistent.
I know this argument gets shitted on a lot on this board, but I'm going to agree. Honestly, before he even took a snap in the Baltimore game, when the team took the field, he looked afraid. There are times during the game when you can see the shots of his face, and he just doiesn't look confident. Does this make or break him? Who the fuck knows. But I don't remember seeing that look during any of the playoff games, even those we ultimately lost.
Ha! I like this... who doesn't have those pics at this point? :smile: I think coming in the door, there was some pressure on Ryan to keep Schotty. I know I read articles that went on about how the FO or ownership had a very strong feeling for Schott when Ryan was coming aboard. Now maybe Ryan feels he's handcuffed to him... I cannot know, but ultimately the HC is responsible for shoving his big ass boot in the OC ass when he's under performing or doing whacked shit. I can only hope that Schott's bung-hole is sore and wider at this point. :grin:
He's confident. He just gets down on himself after he makes mistakes. Chalk that up to being a young QB. He's in his 3rd year, and even though its the breakout year, he still has more to learn.
I think Sanchez has issues seeing the field from the pocket as he's not the tallest QB in the league. When he rolls outside, his downfield vision seems to improve markedly. And before anyone brings it up, Mark Sanchez is NOT Drew Brees.
Last time I checked (today) Rothlisberger and Cutler having a tough time this year. Maybe it has something to do with not having an offensive line? Tony Romo has great career stats and throws INTs when he's avoiding sacks. It's odd that Tom Brady turns into a very average QB and throws wild when a team generates a lot of pressure in a game. It's probably because he's too tall with very long arms.
It's a solid point, although I don't think it's his main flaw. A combination of the factors mentioned seems most likely, all contributing to his inconsistency. If his play falls off a cliff due to repetitive destruction of the pocket, it'll be the biggest problem. For now, however, it's predominantly a concern due to the play thus far of our line. He's always had a slower release. It's a combination of his physical makeup and his delivery style. I say slower because he's improved since college. He'll never have a lightning fast delivery, but he's quick enough to make every throw. I will say, however, his worst plays tend to come when he's trying to get the ball out a tick faster than he's comfortable with. This. I haven't seen anyone question whether he's clutch in this thread, but I've certainly seen it bandied about on the board, and it's absolutely foolish. It's been his best attribute thus far. This is the only part I disagree with. It's not that I disagree with the questions about stability in the face of punishing play. Time will tell. A more physically imposing QB may have been a better fit, but I still doubt Freeman would have succeeded in New York. He's as hard as himself and takes criticism as much to heart as any QB I've seen. I think he thrives in the low expectations of Tampa. I honestly think playing in New York may have broken him or affected him mentally. He beats himself up over every mistake, and to have it compounded and rehashed countless times in the media? He's not the type to deal well with it.
He's had around 40 starts, and he's still having a lot of problems with things that shouldn't be problems by now. A good QB shakes off mistakes and goes on. A streaky QB lets mistakes haunt him and affect his play.
No, you're not with him here. Abyzmul gave a well thought out response, while you've only demonstrated a complete lack of understanding for the intent of the thread or the original post. Br4dw4y never said Sanchez wasn't a good QB or that he can't win, which you still can't seem to comprehend. This thread was to ADDRESS people who were overreacting, not to become one of them.
I wouldn't count on it. There seem to be two types of people unable to respond appropriately to this thread: those who overreact in asserting that Sanchez is flawless, and those who overreact in asserting that he's garbage. It's a great thread, a place to discuss what are problems that need to be addressed and corrected. Some of the issues with his mechanics and reads are still progressing, and I'm rather optimistic they'll be fixed. The chemistry issue and the play of the line are our biggest concerns because Sanchez isn't solely responsible for either one. We know the former isn't going to get any better after this season, either. He'll return one WR yet again, and yet again we'll be looking to break in new receivers. The sole comfort is that he'll have a full offseason in which to do so. Still, with the turnover we're sure to see at other positions, next year's looking like an awfully tough year for Sanchez and an even harder one for Rex to proclaim his annual SB guarantee.
Wait, this was a few pages ago, but you're telling me the Jets LB coach convinced Rex Ryan to become a passing team???
The intent of the post was not to disparage the OP. It was to point out that having a poor offensive line has a direct impact on a QB's performance. And looking through some of the OP's comments before this week, he makes the same observations on several occasions yet they seem to be absent from this discussion. But we did learn some important facts about arm length. Before Mangold went out, Sanchez' stats were improving over last year and IIRC, he had his best career game (statistically). QB play and stats are obviously dependent on many things. Blocking, receivers, play calling, consistency of the lineup, etc. And beyond that, the actual performance of the QB. Does Sanchez have flaws? Sure. Just like every single QB in NFL history.
Why don't we just replace Sanchez with a robot with a perfect wingspan? We could also incorporate Sanchez's burst speed in the robot.
And that last sentence is the whole point. The rest of the board seemed to consist of people shitting on Sanchez every way imaginable and people preaching infinite patience and excusing every bit of bad play. This thread actually attempts to address what the REAL flaws are and where they can be corrected. It's valuable for that reason. Like you said, QB play is dependent on a host of things. It's nice to see a place where people can discuss him and the cause of his struggles honestly without ridiculous posts like Vorrecht's above. Unfortunately, some of those comments came in here anyway.
