The Mark Sanchez Flaws Thread

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think his main flaw is the dangerous situation he's in on this team.

    Rex Ryan set a precedent in 2009 with QB knock-downs, and at times I was shocked that most of them were not called by officials. Even on Brady, they abused Brady in that first game in '09.

    Rex knew what he was doing, using intimidation, but I think in the long run the choice of quarterback in that draft should have been considered when bringing in one of the most aggressive pressure schemes in the league. Yes, they revel in having the target on their backs, but in the end, when your offensive line gets dinged up, your QB is going to be fair game for every team you face, and especially for the teams that you have abused in the past.

    I think Sanchez has a tremendous skill set, and I'm not sure where the idea of a slow release came from but he does have long arms and huge hands and if his form is right and his head is straight he can make any throw you need him to, within reason.

    Upstairs, he has a switch that he flips in a lot of pressure games, especially in the post season. That's the type of stuff that gets you far in January and February. Anybody that questions his clutch is lying to themselves.

    But I do see his main flaws as physical. He just doesn't appear sturdy enough to withstand the beatings that he has coming for him. The more I look at that draft, the more I think they should have taken a physically imposing signal caller like Josh Freeman, because he would compliment the team in the same way that Big Ben compliments the Steelers' punishing defense. He can handle the payback, and he has that physical style of escape-ability that frustrates pass rushes and creates big play opportunities out of nothing.

    I think Sanchez has a great chance of helping deliver a championship to us. But it will have to happen before he starts walking like Namath. His main flaws are going to end up being longevity and health, I think.
     
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  2. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    You nailed it abyzmul.
     
  3. TheGreenCantona

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    I agree with you on sanchez being one of my favs, but I cannot for my life keep blaiming Schotty for the recurring INTs or the O-line for the sacks and fumbles. Sanchez is not the only QB with a banged up Oline, look at Painter against Tampa bay. He did a good job not turning over the ball even if he was 1-9 against the blitz and had 2-3 non-regulars in the oline (he did fumble ones though).

    Sanchez released the ball, not Schotty. Paytons, Bradys etc can read and instruct the pick up of the blitzes, Sanchez less so.
     
  4. MBGreen

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    well said.
     
  5. LoyalJetsFan

    LoyalJetsFan New Member

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    b-b-but he's only 6'2"

    In all seriousness, I'm with you here. People need to calm the fuck down, and realize that it's only his 3rd year in the league. He's done more in the postseason than some have in their careers.

    If we're making threads like this after a brutal loss, then fans in Houston, SD, Atlanta, and Dallas must be on suicide watch.
     
  6. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    As you love to say, this is a big block of shit that no one wants to read. How about Rodgers is 25 times more talented than Sanchez? Not a knock on Sanchez, just the facts. Why would you even attempt to write 5 paragraphs making excuses for Sanchez why he donest play like Ridgers/ Its fuckin garbage. One sentence---Rodgers is 25 times more talented than Sanchez.
     
  7. Dierking

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    his arms' too short to box with God.
     
  8. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Br4d,

    I get what you are saying about timing and his delivery. But it seems to me if he's consistently throwing certain passes to his receiver's back shoulder, he should adjust his target to get it out front a bit more.

    Do you play golf? Ever play in a strong steady wind with fast greens? You set up to put a 25 ft shot, with the wind coming left to right across the green. Guess what, if you don't aim more to your left, you will go right.

    I know it's not the wind, but if he CONSISTENTLY is throwing behind the receiver on crossing patterns, he should adjust and get the ball a bit more out in front.

    One other point about Edwards, and this is for Reilly, too. I was also a big one for bringing him back, despite being a Burress fan, who I still think will make a contribution. And I also agree conceptually with the, all other things being equal, preference for continuity.

    But at least on this crossing pattern issue, perhaps my memory is failing me but they didn't use Edwards all that much on those, did they? In other words I don't recall that even with the little continuity we did see pay dividends on other types of passes with Edwards, that it spilled over into crossing patterns.

    But perhaps i have merely forgotten...
     
  9. Mr Electric

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    It's pointless talking football with someone as incompetent as you.

    You obviously didn't read the post I was replying to or the post that you quoted.
     
  10. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    during sanchez 3rd pro game (?titans) ne was getting nicked up a bit and i turned to my wife and said this guy might be our generations joe namath....

    if it brings the championship OK but he is gonna get the snot beat out of him in doing so.
     
  11. The Grim Revis

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    He just needs to get out of this offense.

    Yes, the OL has been really bad, but anyone can see that Schotty is an abysmal playcaller. How many times have we even thrown the ball more than 20 yards downfield?

    It seems like we have 3 routes: a curl, a slant, and Keller running 6 yards down the field.
     
  12. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    That's a really interesting take and the kind I was hoping for when I started the thread. Thanks.
     
  13. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    youre act is becoming real old, real quick. You post stupidity and when someon calls you on it you pull your "superior football knowledge" card. Youre a clown dude.
     
  14. Jetzz

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    I was flipping channels last weekend and I ran across a scene in a movie with Martin Lawrence and Will Smith who commandeered a vehicle.. it was a dealer vehicle and Dan Marino was apparently test driving.
     
  15. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Edwards caught some balls in the middle but he was primarily being used as a vertical receiver, mainly on the left sideline but on the right at times too.

    The receivers who should be getting a lot of looks inside on crossing patterns are Santonio Holmes and Dustin Keller. So far either they're not running a lot of those patterns or Sanchez is not seeing them. Keller primarily is used as a mid range threat straight up the field with most of his targets being 6 to 15 yards in the vicinity of the right hashmark. The interception was on a crossing pattern going from right to left about 15 yards down the field.
     
  16. Jetzz

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    Great post.... I think this sums up the situation pretty well. Getting knocked around is going to be the death knell for most NFL QBs... Sanchez is scrappy and gutsy kid for sure, but they need to make sure they protect him better. The more times he is pounded the better chance he has of ending up like Namath... or Pennington even.

    I am a lot more worried with our OL than I am with our QB. I'm only worried for the QB because of the OL.
     
  17. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The big problem in Baltimore was the turnovers and 3 of them don't happen if the line gives Sanchez more than 2 seconds to make the throw. The pick-6 doesn't even get called if Sanchez isn't getting harrassed early on almost every passing play.
     
  18. Mr Electric

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    I simply answered a question that another poster asked me and you didn't read through my post because it was too long or something.

    There was no reason for you to respond to it, but I guess you felt like making yourself look like even more of a fool.

    Oh, here:

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  19. Catt_County

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    This thread reminds me of the "bad ol' days" when Dick Jauron was the Bills HC. :sad:

    If the offensive system sucks, your QB is gonna play a whole lot worse than he could. A lot of times, the HC dictates that system, but whether the HC or the OC is to blame, the Jets need to design an offense that's suited to Sanchez's strengths rather than trying to force him into a system that suits the coaches but may not be what he's good at.
     
  20. kbgreen

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    I agree - the only add I would make is he could also be a little taller. He seems to have a lot of balls tipped at the line.
     

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