Are we limited with Sanchez?

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  1. jets_fan_in_fishtown

    jets_fan_in_fishtown Active Member

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    your team has never made the playoffs in their entire existence so I'm not gonna expect you to watch games in january
     
  2. DRC™

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    We have a bad OC to go with an ok QB, really bad mix
     
  3. Rex's Sweater Vest

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    I am just getting so sick of this offensive mediocrity. Maybe it isn't all on Schotty, in 2008 with Favre we lit up scoreboard (can you believe we actually scored 56 points in a game?) and yet now our offense looks completely retarded, what happened!? We got better receivers, and improved Keller, better RBs, so what is wrong with this team? I am starting to think that Sanchez's lack of growth is as much a contributor to our offensive woes as Schotty's play calling. Regardless, Sanchez needs to play better or we are going NOWHERE, that is the bottom line. I don't care that we can beat up on cupcakes like the Jaguars (and Sanchez still plays poorly) if we want to be a super bowl team we need to beat super bowl caliber teams; and how are we ever going to do that this season when our quarterbacks hands the other team 21 points. I'd venture to say McElroy would have played better tonight; Sanchez is not showing the growth that a 3rd yr starting quarterback should be undergoing and it is holding the team back. I have no doubt in my mind that if you put even just a near elite QB on this team, that we are a lock for our division EVERY YEAR and right now we are struggling to stay afloat. Good QBs can overcome the incompetency of play calling, and Sanchez is clearly not there, he overthrows his receivers on a regular basis, he can't seem to register the speed of the game to the point where he can avoid bone head interceptions, he has no command of the game the game always commands him.
     
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  4. rohirrim665

    rohirrim665 Well-Known Member

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    The fact is we were ready to make it a game and Sanchez throws a pick 6. Blame schotty all you want, I think he called a half-decent game within the circumstances.
     
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    Exactly, the guy had a shit game against Jacksonville too! I guess that was playcalling.
     
  6. AJayJay

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    What do you want him to do? He has a defender in his face and is trying to make a play? The guys a gamer, he's trying to make something happen, it's just difficult to do when you have a defender in your face every time you drop back to pass.

    I guess you never played sports competitively or else you would understand what Sanchez is going through.
     
  7. wildaces

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    I think that Schotty could have helped with the line, by keeping backs back, moving pocket, etc. I just don't believe Sanchez is getting it. Did he check out of any plays tonight, and secondly, if you snap the ball with 1 second on the play clock you help the defensive pass rush. He could help the line by getting in and out of the huddle, and using the cadence.
     
  8. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    The best pass rusher shouldn't be running free to the quarterback.

    sanchez had to rush that throw, as he had to every single throw all night basically.


    we used to have one of the best pass protecting O lines the past 2 years. Last year we were in the top of the leagues in least sacks allowed and QB hits.

    So far this year, sanchez has been getting destroyed. The first two games, it was almost exclusively wayne hunter's fault. Now, it's everybody, and IMHO it's a direct result of not having Mangold calling the protection. it effects everybody
     
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    man stop the bullshit every passing play he doesnt have someone in his face, when the blocking is good he overthrows the ball..like he just did
     
  10. Mossachusetts

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    I have to agree with this post, spot on.
     
  11. MikeHoncho

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    So Carr in his 3rd year was better than Sanchez in his 2nd? What exactly is your point? David Carr sucks and has proven it on 3 different teams. He never had even close to the success Sanchez has had.
     
  12. AJayJay

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    For the majority of the night he has been getting rushed and hit and knocked around. When that is happening to you MOST of the night, you tend to rush throws. I don't care if you are David Carr, Eli Manning, Mark Sanchez, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. When you're getting knocked around and hurried like our QB has all night you're internal clock is going to be off and you're gonna make throws you shouldn't. You want him to not even try to make a play?
     
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    exactly...the entire 4th quarter the pressure has not been so intense, yet he still sucks
     
  14. rohirrim665

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    :rofl:
    I've played in my day. I used to be a quarterback with an even worse offensive line, even though its not comparable to playing in the NFL of course. He hasn't made plays even with time in the pocket. Hes having a terrible game , get a grip.

    Edit: Did you just watch the last 3rd and 10 play? Just not a good game for him. He hasn't had a good game all season.
     
  15. Mr Electric

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    David Carr also never had the surrounding talent that Sanchez has had. I see a lot of similarities in the two of them - talent wise at least.

    Carr's downfall was the mental part of the game. He lost his confidence and his composure from getting hit so much.

    Sanchez will become shellshocked like Carr if things do not change.
     
  16. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    We aren't limited with Mark as our QB. We need a better OC. It's time to admit that.
     
  17. rohirrim665

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    My final point of the night is Sanchez blaming that shotgun fumble on the center. Give me a break. Both snaps were fine, maybe the first one was too soon, but there was nothing wrong with the shotgun snap, and he walks off pouting.
     
  18. Mossachusetts

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    Jets 2012 1st round pick to the Patriots for Ryan Mallet, problem solved! :smile:
     
  19. AJayJay

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    You're right, I'm sure whatever pop warner team you played QB on is not comparable to what Mark is going through.

    Like I said earlier, when you're going thru the entire first half being knocked around and hurried you're internal clock is going to be off. This isn't just something Sanchez would be going through. It's for any QB and if you played QB like you claim you have you would know this.

    The team has quit in the fourth quarter. If you wanna say he is having a terrible game but to question whether or not he should be our QB here is asinine.

    When you have a QB who leads a team to 2 AFCCG in 2 seasons I highly doubt it's the QB.

    When you have a OC who fails with QB's such as Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Pennington, Favre, Sanchez then you have to question the OC.
     
  20. Jetfanmack

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    This is a stupid question.

    We've been limited for 3 years with Sanchez. This is nothing new.

    First 2 years, you write it off because he's a growing QB. This year, the OL hasn't been giving him much of a chance, but even when he does have time, he is so inaccurate. For a team that throws short so often, it's mindboggling how inaccurate he can be sometimes.

    Anyone who writes him off based on this year is out of their mind. But we do not have a good quarterback. Neither does Baltimore, by the way.

    The OL is the biggest problem, at least for this year. Sanchez looked a little better in the first 3 games, though he still had a lot of inconsistencies mixed in. His weapons are also worse, and the scheme is awful. I'm sick of Schottenheimer. Hope he's gone after this season.

    But we've always been limited with Sanchez. It's not like he's improved to the point that he leads us to victory, like a great QB can. He's alright. He's still young enough where he can improve, certainly, but that doesn't mean we're still limited.
     

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