Jets must build drives with no huddle offense

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  1. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    Start the game out this...Or use it during stretches where the opponent does not expect it, after kickoffs, 1st possession of a quarter, once an opponent scores...

    One thing we have learned is that Sanchez actually does well in no huddle offense.

    Lets not wait till 2 minutes to do these. The great QB's have the 2-minute offense built into a routine, which is why they are able to overcome the adversities of being down by a possession.

    Rex is aggressive on defense, but rather then getting Sanchez out of just being a game manager in set plays and allowing the defense time to predict and prepare...it might be better to get on them while they are on their heels.

    Sanchez + More no huddle offense...yes?
     
  2. Tenn_JetsFanatic

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    Absolutely ... a No huddle offense is a great change of pace and hard to prepare for.
     
  3. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I don't mind the idea. Just remember that the last time the jets tried to go no huddle to start a game they lost 45-3. That might be a reason Rex hasn't allowed them to open it up, or it might not.
     
  4. laxin

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    I agree... I mean when the Jets have used the no huddle (the last two minutes) the defense plays soft, but i still think that we use the no huddle better than our conventional offense. Sanchez seems to hit a groove during it, and that might be because schotty not calling the plays. I think starting the game off with the no huddle would be a good idea
     
  5. Poeman

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    Well the Raiders are not exactly led by Tom Brady. One thing we have learned is...DONT GIVE BRADY THE BALL or any great QB.

    It was an ineffective plan which they switched it up in the AFC game.

    However these others are not going to expect this.

    They will expect:

    1st down: HB Sprint
    2nd down: Play-action Boot
    3rd down: Play-action screen
     
  6. James Calvin

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    It's not just a matter of no-huddle, it's tempo. Mixing it up on a few plays can catch the defense off guard.
     
  7. Mr3rdDown80

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    agree 100%... it seems every time were losing in the 4th sanchez marches us down the field every time... we need to get him playing at that pace on just about every series... if hes really our franchise qb they need to let him set the pace and REALLY control the offense... when he gets in a rhythm he looks as good as any QB
     
  8. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I'm a large proponent for the no huddle.

    But there's a reason they don't run in the spots you are talking about:

    1) You gas your offense
    2) If your offense can't execute you gas your defense.



    They run it when theres little time left in the quarter because they know there's a break in action coming up for the players to rest.


    It seems Sanchez exceeds in the no huddle because he doesn't have to think he can "just ball out".
     
  9. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Also the no huddle isn't about surprise. It's about not letting the defense to substitute personel which creates mismatches and it also exhausts the defense which creates spaces they normally wouldn't be.


    A key time to run the no huddle is right after a play where you think you have an advantage in the defensive personnel...get to the line, don't let them sub and then run the play toward the advantage, i.e a cornerback who came up limping or a slow linebacker used for run stopping..go over the middle with Keller.
     
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  10. Jetskees

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    While I think they need to integrate this into their offense a little more, it's risky with the pass protection issues we are facing.

    Sanchez is already taking a lot of hits, coming away with another new injury to deal with after every game. The no huddle will lead to more plays and more pressure.

    Until we fix our offensive line issues, I wouldn't spend too much time in the no huddle unless completely necessary.
     
  11. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    They don't need gimicks IMO, they need consistency. Schottenheimer needs to call better games and the offense needs to execute better. Sanchez needs to make better decisions, the receivers need to make the catches and the OL need to open holes and pass block better.
     
  12. inSANITy

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    If u are worried about gassing our defensive. Presumably coulnt we run the no huddle and jut wait to snap the ball at the line? We would be allowing to vatch their breath but wouldnt allow them to substitue players. I think this would work great in a 3wr 1te with lt. Run the ball on the first play and then switxh to a shot gun 4 or 5 recirver formation (lt and keller can both play thr slot). It allowd our team to pass on them while they still have their 4-3 personnel out there when we have basically 5 wrs.
     
  13. Mr3rdDown80

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    hmm.. very good idea there... i wonder if this has ever crossed schittenheimers mind... i def like keller in the slot against a linebacker... dont see how they would be able to cover that formation from their base defense
     
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    we should do it to start the 2nd half, assuming we are up. It would definitely throw off the defense.
     
  15. Tenn_JetsFanatic

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    That is true ... the no huddle offense shouldn't be used full time, but it should be used to keep the defense off balance. Going in and only doing it when it is expected doesn't have the same effect as it would if you did it once or twice every 4 downs.
     
  16. ScotlandJet

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    I agree with this a lot. Sometimes you feel that just when Sanchez is developing a nice offensive rhythm, shotty seems to strangle the drive with some dumb ass short yard plays with slow time consuming huddles.

    I was encouraged last week against the Raiders with the game on the line the Jets started to get in to gear but left it too late.
     
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    Unfortunately Schotty's idea of mixing it up involves Cromartie running a reverse.
     
  18. inSANITy

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    Well thats what happens when you get rid of the Late, Great, Brad Smith.
     
  19. ajax

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    Jets D is struggling & there's injuries (with Cro). Last week they gave up massive ground yardage. Why would you run no-huddle & put even more pressure on the D?

    This team is built to win on defense not offense. Doing what's best for the offense and not giving a damn about the defense is not what's best for the team overall. If Sanchez ran no-huddle last week against the Raiders, the offense needs 40+ points to catch up to the Raiders.

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    How do you expect to run no-huddle consistently when the qb is under so much pressure? The whole point of no-huddle is to not allow defensive substitutions. Once Sanchez is on the ground from another big hit, there's going to be adequate time for the opposing defense to swap players.
     
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  20. Footballgod214

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    this....for example, on 3rd and long, if the defense has their dime package in (swap 2 LB's for 2 DB's) and we get a first down, the go to a quick no huddle with a power running play. Keep the mismatch on the field as long as possible.
     

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