http://gridironhistory.com/forums/index.php?topic=333.0 If true this would be nice for the ACC despite losing FSU.
This has to be a bleacher report rumor because none of this makes any sense at all... If anything it's the Big 12 that is going to die... http://www.chron.com/sports/college...-meet-with-Oklahoma-in-hopes-they-2167082.php A delegation of University of Texas officials visited Oklahoma on Sunday to try to convince top Sooner sports officials to remain in the Big 12. An official with knowledge of the negotiations said that the UT officials implored the Sooners to stay in the conference in order to keep it afloat in case Texas A&M continues with its plans of moving to the Southeastern Conference. Among those who attended the meeting included UT athletic director DeLoss Dodds, UT president William Powers and UT women's athletic director Chris Plonsky. OU was represented by a group including school president David Boren. UT reportedly is offering to pool revenues from its Tier I football television games (those broadcast on ABC and ESPN) as a way to equalize revenue for the other Big 12 teams if the remaining teams stick together. But it would not affect the money generated by the Longhorn Network for UT's Tier III games in its 15-year contract, $300 million contract with ESPN. That money still leaves the Longhorns as the Big 12's biggest moneymaker by a wide margin. A published report Monday indicated that the Sooners have formally applied to the Pac-12 to become its 13th member, citing the revenue discrepancy caused by the Longhorn Network as one of the primary reasons they want to leave. But people familiar with the conference and the negotiations said that the schools are in a "holding pattern" until A&M's decision to move to the SEC is resolved. OU and Oklahoma State are seen as a package deal that could either make or break the conference. Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott has been adamant in recent days in saying he hopes that his conference will not expand. But he softened his position at Saturday's USC-Utah game. "Our position hasn't really changed as we haven't been looking for or aspiring to expand since we made the decision on 12 (teams)," Scott said Saturday. "If schools are going to leave the Big 12 and there's going to be a paradigm shift or a landscape change as people are calling it, we'll go ahead and step back and look at our options. And then consider." Scott also has repeatedly said that the Pac-12 wouldn't be the "first mover" on expansion. And his statement indicates that the "holding pattern" could last for several weeks. The move of the Sooners and Cowboys is not universally accepted by other Pac-12 schools. Colorado president Bruce Benson isn't excited about the arrival of any of the Buffaloes' old conference rivals joining them in the Pac-12. "When I hear things like East-West divisions, we're going back to the Big 12 again," Benson told the Denver Post. And I sure don't want to get shorted out of the West Coast." The SEC invited the Aggies to be its 13th member last week, but with a stipulation that no other Big 12 school would file a lawsuit against the conference for the departure. Baylor - among others - has declined to waive its right to sue, slowing A&M's move. But several people familiar with the Big 12's initial letter have said it would allow the Aggies to move diminishes Baylor's legal status and could eventually pave the way for A&M to join the SEC.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/13/s...s-to-convince-oklahoma-to-stay-in-big-12.html "Oklahoma’s president, David Boren, has made it clear that O.U. would explore joining the Pac-12 with Oklahoma State. But there is growing sentiment in Pac-12 circles that it would be difficult to accept the Oklahoma universities, and accepting them without Texas would be a long shot. Academically, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State lag far behind top Pac-12 universities like Stanford, California, U.C.L.A., U.S.C. and Washington. Last year, when the Pac-12 presidents were discussing expansion, they took a sour attitude toward Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, which were viewed as a necessary evil for Texas’ potential admission. Boren and Oklahoma’s board of regents appear willing to test the Pac-12’s interest. The Oklahoma regent Tom Clark declined to comment on an Orangebloods.com report that Oklahoma’s regents were unanimous in favor of going to the Pac-12. " The rumor isn't that far fetched if the Pac-12 doesn't want OU without Texas.
Sadly academics don't mean shite anymore. They can take the stand about the academics but if it was about academics and not politics then BYU which is a better school academically then Utah would have gotten an invite. Baylor also ranks ahead of Colorado. For the record Oklahoma isn't the anchor academically, it's Okie State but I think T. Boone Pickens has enough money in his bank account to make them forget all about that. According to the US News Oklahoma ranks 111th nationally and Utah 129th but Oklahoma State is 133rd so not too far behind them. Both rank ahead of Oregon State 139 and Arizona State 143.
This is terrible, college football is ruining college sports. They are doing all this for a sport that uses a computer to determine championship game opponents.
Junc they are just doing all this to make give everybody what they want* I could be way off here but the BCS contract expires in 2014. The Feds are up the ass of the BCS for all the garbage that they do with their tax exempt status so they're gonna go to 16 team conferences and create the plus 1 that everybody wants. Don't worry if your a UCF , Boise, or Houston fan you still won't have a chance to play for a national title.
The Big East and Big 12 will both die if there is another round of expansion. That's why there are schools threatening lawsuits.
Well yeah, if your Baylor and you'v e won a total of 18 Big 12 games since 1995 and you've been stealing money all those years your gonna threaten legal action because your money train is about to come crashing to a halt. I've become friendly with quite a few TCU fans in the recent years and from what they say the only reason was taken as part of the Big 12 as opposed to say TCU/SMU/Houston/Rice was because the governor of Texas at the time was a Baylor alum and she basically forced Baylor in. They don't have the friends in high places this time around to save them. Say hello to irellavance Baylor and Iowa State. I looked it up and Baylor lost a game to Noryh Texas 52-6 and to UAB 59-6 and that was this decade. They've both also lost to UNLV and all I can say is if you lose to my alma mater in football you should be forced to drop football alltogether.
Well, now Baylor has Kenneth Star on their side. So he will find dirt on someone important and get them to lie about it under oath.
Baylor is so hypocritical http://blog.chron.com/sportsjustice...aylor-forgotten-how-it-dumped-smu-tcu-and-uh/
I am sure they are but so what? Unless you believe what is best for college football is to have only 4 conference (because that is where it is heading) then I am glad they are trying to fight it. If you are a team that is not part of one of those four then you might as well stop playing, you won't be in line to get a penny more than what you can raise yourself.
5-6 Super conferences if you really wanted it. Pac-16, Big 16, ACC, SEC, and two conferences comprised of MWC, WAC, C-USA, MAC,Big 12 & Big East remnants. I would rather see it go to 7 super conference though. As of 2013 you could have 7 super conferences with 12 teams left over. Today there are 11 conferences and a division of independents. So just eliminating 3 conferences you'd have 7 conferences of 16 to go with a conference of 12. Then that would solve the whole playoff issue since each conference champ would get a playoff spot. With this schools like Boise St. and TCU can't complain because they would have a shot at the title as long as they won their conference title thus giving them a shot. You could use the BCS for seeding or just dumping and go with a panel like they do for basketball. With Basketball you can have 21 super conferences with 9 teams left over so you'd have essentially 22 conferences eliminating 10 of them in the process thus giving teams a better chance to get in the NCAA tourney if they don't win their conference since you would end up having 46 at-larges rather than the 37 you have today.
That's a pretty accurate assessment of Baylor... the funny thing is I never heard the rumors of a new conference made of of Big 12 remnants with teams from CUSA and the MWC. As a UNLV fan I don't like the sounds of this. We have the market size (TV market 40) we have a nationally known basketball program but our football program is a disgrace. It would all depend on how many teams they took and how many teams remained when the Big East was destroyed. A lot is going to change with these middle tiered teams like SMU, Houston, Colorado State, Air Force and the other teams in the MWC. I just hope we don't end up dumped with Utah St. Idaho, San Jose St, Rice and Tulane. If CUSA and the MWC do break up you'd have to imagine that LaTech and Tulane likely end up in the Sun Belt possibly with Marshall. It's possible that UNLV, Nevada and New Mexico end up back in the WAC with absolute shit. I think Fresno and San Diego State will stay together now that they are in the same conference but where do they go.
I'm hearing that as well, I've also seen some grumblings about OU, and Okie State to the Pac 12 as early as Monday. The rumor also says that Texas Tech will be going with them but I don't believe that. I just wish all this would happen and we could move on. Should the Pac 12 go to 14 , then Texas to the ACC and Mizzou to the SEC along with A&M maybe that will end the expansion for a while. I don't see anybody expect maybe the Big East fighting for the Big 12 scraps but maybe the ACC will expand with Kansas so Texas sorta has a travel partner. Could you imagine a basketball conference with Duke, UNC and Kansas? Holy shite!!!
That would be fun, I hope it happens(I wish we could go bakc to the old conferences but obviously that isn't happening so adding KU would be incredible for basketball).
