Quite obviously you don't even understand what the goal of 3-4 alignment is. The flavor Rex is running is very close to the conservative B-F 3-4. (that New England runs, if you please). True, Shaun Ellis did get quite a bit of pressure, but that was more or less because DeVito and Pouha maintained their gap integrity while commanding double team - allowing Ellis to go 1-on-1 with the RT. Obviously BB didn't like what he saw - Crumpler was called to protect Brady (to double on Ellis). When that happened, Calvin Pace stepped up for a sack. In that sack, Crumpler was in a bad situation, as his primary target, Ellis, and yet another rusher, Pace, both charged in, and he was beat badly while trying to keep up with both. All in all, it was the mad coverage that cracked the protection, not the other way around. In Rex's flavor of 3-4, DL's first and foremost responsibility is 1. to maintain the gap integrity, and 2. maintain containment of the QB. Once that is accomplished, then it's the linebackers' job to seal the deal. (if all the LBs are proficient at rushing the passer like they should be ideally, then LB blitz alone will present 10+ combinations merely sending 4~5 guys. Add in the secondary flavor, and you get to a point where you cannot really predict the direction of the pressure as a QB. Jets are really blessed in that their secondary players - like Eric Smith, Ihedigbo, Coleman and Cole - while they suck donkey balls in coverage, are very good at pass rushing.) As a summary: QB pressure from the conservative 3-4 DE is a luxury, not a necessity.
You clearly have problems with reading comprehension. My arguement is that our DEs failed to: 1. to maintain the gap integrity, and 2. maintain containment of the QB during the regular season, much less generate sacks and pressure. This is why it is unfair to throw all of the blame at Pace, Taylor, etc. If you would care to explain why the whole thing is the fault of the LBs, go right ahead but there is no way you can tell me that Mike Devito demanded double teams throughout the regular season.
If that was your intention (which wasn't clear - you simply claimed Jets DLs were getting pushed around, which was never the case) then I agree with you. Like I've been harping on for about a few YEARS by now, Jets DL hardly command double team - thus sending in OLBs always results in a gigantic clusterfuck. If you check my postings on draft forum, you'd find that I've been saying for some time about drafting a stout DL that could actually command double team. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, I am both amazed and intrigued by the evolution (and transformation, maybe?) of Rex Ryan's flavor of 3-4 in the past two weeks. The killer DL - he didn't have. The intimidating OLB, again he didn't have. So what did he do? He turned Jason Taylor into 3-4 DE, knowing the offense will respect him and send double team at him. On the other side, there was Pouha (or, at times Harris even!) eating up 3 people, and Ellis was on the far side. While Ryan didn't have the optimal personnel to create the kind of pass rushing lane any competent 3-4 DLs should be able to create, but he still made it happen. In this setup, however, Ryan didn't use his typical 3-4 alignment; he went with either 3-3-5 nickel or 3-2-6 dime. What made his experiment successful was, (believe it or not) the presence of the guys we always bitched at but never fully appreciated: Drew Coleman, Eric Smith, Marquice Cole and James Ihedigbo. Ryan didn't have fast and physical OLBs, but I am very sure by now that he must have known if he could create fire zone, he had 4 defensive backs that could rush and get the passer. In that instance, the rushing DB becomes the fast OLB that Jets never had. You will understand if you look at the Drew Coleman sack; Brady thought Coleman was simply trying to fool him, waiting to fall back into coverage. When the LT (Matt Light) was absorbed by Jason Taylor (99), with all other linemen and TEs shifted to the right (probably due to the sliding the protection to the right. I am guessing this was Brady's call; hell, Brady even shifted Woodhead to his right, sending him to flat route) Coleman torpedoes himself into Brady's backside. Now, if the aforementioned four learns how to cover (for a brief moment - which shouldn't be too hard) then I'd guess that Jets D again has some nasty blitz packages coming up. And another thing to keep in mind is: what a resounding success the Jason Taylor experiment was. Whenever Shaun Ellis sacked Brady, there was always #99 first getting in the face of Brady, forcing him to go fraidy cat. (Or Brady cat? Go figure.) Once that happened, whoever was closest could just finish the job. That happened to be Ellis (twice) and Pouha (once). Taylor was extremely effective as 3-4 DE, always commanding double team that DeVito never could; while he's up there in age, he still can beat any OL one-on-one, as evidenced by his plays from past three years including this year. While he didn't have any gaudy sack total, his contribution to this defense is immense. If Taylor can keep this up, maybe he can play for good 3-4 more years at 3-4 DE.
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3-4 has always been the bane of Peyton Manning. His strength lies in diagnosing defenses before the snap. 3-4 lets you disguise the 4th or 5th rusher and then Manning gets happy feet. Keep in mind Ben is used to practicing against his 3-4, albeit not against someone of Revis' caliber. Jets need huge games from their OLB's or Ben is gonna scramble and make plays all over you guys all night long.
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Bottom line is, pass rushing is a more important role for a 4-3 DE than a 3-4. HOWEVER, this does NOT excuse your D-Line from getting pressure on the QB. This is not 2 hand touch. Your D-line should still get some sort of rush. If you're just gonna let guys stand you up, you might as well drop back in coverage on pass plays. Right now it looks like our D-Line is counting "Mississippi's" at the line.
At the snap, it's five blocking three. If your D-line can keep most of the O-line engaged, and unable to block downfield, your back seven will have a field day making plays.
LOL ..Bayless loves Tebow too... Bayless=clueless or he's network guy who's job is to say off the wall stuff to get reaction/interaction from viewers. I think the latter rather than the former.
If you're on this forum, and you don't understand the role of linemen in the 3-4 you should log out of your account and never return.
We have two rookies and virtually unknowns on the line. I know Pouha is near top tier at DT but most NFL fans dont.
Aside from David Harris, is anyone in our front 7 really "above" average? The only players you can really make an argument for are Scott and Pace. Wilkerson and Ellis obviously have the potential to be above average but that's something we have to see first. Most would admit that DeVito and Pouha are just average and Bryan Thomas is clearly below average. The strength of this defense is clearly in the secondary. Hence, the solid numbers defending the pass despite a mediocre pass rush.
Thats a little harsh considering a lot of fans - band-wagoners or otherwise - don't really know all the ins and outs of football. I still have a hard time deciphering between a 46 alignment and a 4-3, 3-4, especially with the crazy motion Rex puts into play. That being said - Rex's defenses in general have never been pass-rush heavy. He's always built his D's back to front. I'm not worried about pass-rushing ability. Solid pressure will be enough.
