Thank you, sir. The shit he pulled in Minnesota and Tennessee will not fly here. Those teams lack leadership. Those teams lack a winning mentality.
I would be happy if we sign moss for somewhere on the cheap end, and if he becomes a slouch, just cut his ass... Tanny and rex wont tolerate his shit so bring on the worlds greatest ego
I'm sorry, but I'm not. Any team can be distracted by childish reactions from players during press conferences, or the calling out of coaches to the media. This team is perhaps the best at absorbing it, but it's not entirely immune. Anytime players are thinking of something other than that week's opponent, that's lost time preparing and, IMO, lost confidence in the integrity of their team. There are other WRs available who don't carry the same baggage and risk. Here, we agree. But keep in mind there hasn't been one team he's been on, with the exception of (his short stint with) the Titans that didn't put up with his antics at some point...
I think it is pretty childish and idiotic to compare Jets knowledge to someone you don't know. But act like you are 11 years old so it fits. Speaking of vast football knowledge, you wanted the Jets to draft Jarron Gilbert at #17 didn't you. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go to sleep tough guy.
...even more childish than calling someone an 11 year old? ...even more childish than putting 18 exclamation points after an LOL? ...even more childish than calling someone a tough guy? I'm pretty sure Gil Brandt has Gilbert ranked highly as well and he's arguably the most knowledgeable scout there is. The draft is a crap shoot. Sometimes things work out, sometimes they don't.
Here is the question, did he get benched and cut because he "lost a step" or is it because he wasn't worth the bother? He obviously was an asshole in Minnesota which is why they cut him. It wasn't that he lost a step. Tennessee was a lost cause with the VY/Kerry Collins drama along with the coach being on his way out of the door. Maybe you're right and he lost a step. Maybe you're wrong though, and he was just in two bad situations and the Jets have a chance to sign him at a big discount. It looks like he was still beating CB's deep last year: [YOUTUBE]eomDoZVauYM[/YOUTUBE] Then what should we judge him on, his hair? The upside is he's been one of the best WR's in the league for the past 10 years or so and he can possibly be signed cheaply. The downside is he had a bad season last year, and maybe he's getting old/lost a step.
Rex would cut him before he left the podium. Maybe I'm wearing the Green Goggles, but I genuinely trust my team's management at this point, to do their due diligence and not offer him a contract without complete assurance of his behavior.
2007 is interesting because it was his best year, and it was the year he got out of a bad situation (the raiders) and into a good one. I don't think he could repeat that with the Jets, but does go to show he's bounced back before in his career. There were people who thought he was done when he played for the raiders. If he hasn't lost a step as another poster claimed, he's more than just serviceable. He can be a top 10 WR. He was contributing on the Patriots, and on the Vikings until that last game where he had the "bad week" when they played the pats. He was fine up until week 8: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4262/gamelog Put a motivated Randy Moss on our offense...you can see in the video I posted in the last post, when he's singled he still beats people. He beat Cro last season. If he's doubled then Holmes Keller and Cotch get to run free, and our running game opens up. Compare him to Edwards who's only broken 1000 yards in one season: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7179/career;_ylt=AiGgjdmqLuB3KhOj8ezVsGb.uLYF
My feelings exactly. When on a playoff-caliber, winning organization, Moss has been elite. I'm seeing the same comments as when Moss was playing for the laughing stock Raiders: "Moss sucks", "He's done", "Moss is a washed up cancer", etc. Once he was traded to a respectable franchise, he turned it on again. Last year he felt a little disrespected by the Pats, then stupidly voiced those feelings. Belichick showed him the fuckin' door. Minnesota was a team in leadership disarray, and the team had turned on a soon-to-be-fired Chilly. Moss had no respect for Childress, like many of the Vikings. Tennessee was another soap opera, with the VY/Fisher fiasco. The team was going nowhere, so Moss went into Fuck It mode. A cheap Moss would be fine on the Jets. The team has a winning attitude and Super Bowl plans. We have a coach and players that will not take whiny bullshit. I see Moss being motivated and playing to his potential, and he would certainly add an extra dimension to the offense. If not, move along.
And again, herein lies the biggest problem. How do we get a motivated Randy Moss? His being motivated seems whimsical, at best. Perhaps Rex can do it, but I'm still for picking up someone who has a better history of playing his role within the scheme of the offense. I don't want to have to worry about a guy walking around, not blocking, or not giving 100%, simply because he isn't the focal point of the play. The other thing I don't think you're considering, is this is not a high-flying passing attack we have here. I expect Mark to improve, but he won't be leading a Patriots' schemed offense on Sundays. This is Ground 'n Pound. You won't see anything near the numbers he put up in NE, regardless of whether he's lost a step or not.
No doubt that he's a risk and he has that reputation, but I don't think any team is going to sign a deal they can't get out of with him. If he's expendable he will have plenty of motivation to play, on top of getting back at the teams that cut him. If you split Moss out wide, teams have to pay attention to him still which opens up the Run. Also Sanchez had more pass attempts than Brady last season, and Sanchez didn't play in week 17. Rex can repeat "Ground and Pound" until he's blue in the face, but the Jets threw the ball a lot last season. Sanchez was 9th in the NFL in attempts. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9269/gamelog http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5228/gamelog http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingAttempts I get that he's a cancer, and a few months ago I would have rather had T.O or any other vet WR, but when I looked at what he actually did last season and the situation again, it seems like he'd be a good pickup considering the risk vs reward. For all the talk about him quitting, the only year it looks like he really quit was his last year in Oakland.
Getting back to your previous point about "too much veteran leadership on this team" ... I'm not buying it. The Pats had as much veteran leadership as you can have with Brady, BB, and Welker and he still got his ass thrown out of there. I'm not saying I wouldn't take the risk, because I would ... but at the same time, I won't be a bit surprised if he turns out to be an asshole. At this point in their lives, people usually are who they are. To be honest, I'd much rather take a chance on Plax, TO or Ocho.
Worse case scenario the Jets sign him, then cut him week 3. The Jets still have Holmes and Cotch at WR.
The trade market is also out there, idk who they could possibly go after that wouldn't cost a ton. I would think we'd be looking for a bigger receiver
Vincent Jackson is one guy that comes to mind. Ehh, nevermind...he'll want a HUGE deal next off-season.
And the same would apply here, he mouthed off, he was gone very quickly. It took him 4 (very productive) years to wear out his welcome in NE. We're looking for one, maybe two.
With out really thinking too much about it, why not. He will behave here. No real concern about that.
Much as I'm not a fan of Moss, it seems odd to be complaining that you don't want him at the Jets because he's an asshole with a bad attitude and then in the next breath say you'd rather have TO.
