True, but neither have the Teflon brain that Moss has. He's the only elite WR in the league who plays when he feels like it. I personally despise that and it has no room on this team and this culture. I don't see him being different on the Jets. But if he comes here, and pulls the same shit, they'll cut him immediately.
I completely agree with this and I don't have a problem with it. Moss is not going to demand a lot of money - it'd be a boom-or-bust signing. If he comes in here and clowns around, he's gone and it won't matter because the Jets already have capable players at the skill positions. This team was just incredibly lucky to have Edwards and Holmes (two #1 WRs) in 2010. If you bring him in and he tries hard (most of the time), the offense is way better off.
I can't believe people are advocating Moss coming to the Jets. You won't find a bigger fan of Moss and what he's done in his career (as a player) than me. I even rank him above Rice, as I think the only reason his numbers aren't on par with Rice's is simply because didn't have the good fortune of playing with two HoF QBs. But that's a debate for another day. That said, the guy is selfish, has a documented history of being lazy, and has clearly lost a step at this point in his career. Can Rex rectify the first two issues? Perhaps, but why bother risking that he can't when there are other options available? And he no longer commands double-teams like he use to. That is simply not true. I feel similarly about Plax. However, if we're looking to replace the size/physicality of Braylon, I'd prefer to do it with someone who a) not only has two less years of abuse on his body, but b) is also in a place mentally where he's mature enough to know there are things bigger than himself, and that he should be thankful to be playing football (again). Truthfully, I don't want either player, but I'd easily take Plax over Moss. And this is coming from one of Randy's biggest fans.
Only if he wears Santana's old # 83 so we can reuse the jersey. I just can't see him fitting in with the team. Picturing him doing the wing celebration makes me want to vomit, although he'd probably skip it anyway
What is our biggest annual obstacle on the path to the Super Bowl? The Patriots. Who does Randy Moss have extra motivation to play his ass off against? The Patriots.
No, just the AFCCG game itself. If anything its the Steelers this year. The Pats can be beat. Now if its the division, you're on to something. They are quite in the way.
The best way of getting over the AFCCG hump is by playing it at the Meadowlands. Sweeping the Patriots would all but assure that.
I'll happily take Moss if Sanchez is capable as using him as a deep threat. If Mark isn't tossing them down the field then the decoy is only going to work for so long.
Has he lost a step? He had 1,264 yards and 13 TD's in 2009. Granted 2010 was an abortion of a season for him. Did he lost a step, or was it because he was unmotivated, especially after being cut by the vikings? He still had 5 TD's last season even though he played musical teams. Here is our TD breakdown from last year by WR's/TE: Edwards 7 Holmes 6 Cotch 2 Keller 5 Moss has broken 1000 yards and 8 tds in every season he's started 16 games. Yes he had a bad year last year, and a bad year in Oakland. But look at what he did his first year with the pats after escaping Oakland. 1493 Yards, 23 TDs. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4262/career;_ylt=AiGgjdmqLuB3KhOj8ezVsGb.uLYF If he comes cheap the upside is too much to pass up. Even if he only gives us 1000 yards and 8 tds, that is better than what Braylon did last season.
You have to take a flier on Moss. His impact on the cap is very minimal. If he doesn't pan out then you cut him. Not the freak of nature he once was, but still a top 25 WR in the league when focused and a great deep ball threat.
What's that you just said? Oh, that's right...he scored a TD. It was an amazing one-handed catch as well. We were late getting to the play? Don't give Moss any credit for getting open or anything. Someone said Moss didn't have "it" anymore - that catch alone proves that he still has "it".
right, and it would be great if it was 2009, but its not, its 2011 and the current randy moss is coming of a season where 2 teams didnt want him to the point where they cut him, and the third team decided he was so helpful that he needed to be benched the final 4 games. the problem isnt just that he lost a step, but that he was 1 dimensional in what he did, making that 1 step even more costly. Thats what happens with gifted dominant players, once they get old, that one skill diminsihes, and their flaws and lack of versatility become even more apparent. moss without the insane speed just isnt the same guy... you can take him out of a game simply but putting a safety over the top, or manning him up with a very good CB. and he has shown, he WILL quit anytime he is taken out of a gameplan its irrelevant what he did in the past.... its the same argument with jeter. sure the guy hit for a ton in the past, but he is older now, and when your older, last year is never an abberation, its a sign of decline. what upside? i see no upside, other then he doesnt become a cancer
I guess it is convenient for you to disregard the rest of the game. Moss is a bum. I think some of us think we would be getting the Moss of '08.
I am all for Moss. I think that Rex and the rest of the team will be able to motivate him and a motivated Moss is a RULING Moss. There are plenty other Jets who were labeled headcases and/or has-beens as well and are thriving... why not Randy?
You've only strengthened one of my main points; I don't want a player on this team who requires motivation. Yes, Rex is fantastic at getting the most out of his players, but doesn't that just mean he can get so much more out of a player who is already determined to play his best for the betterment of the team? And referencing stats from 2007 (four years ago), or even 2009 I don't think holds much weight in this conversation. I'll admit the argument can be made that Moss' poor 2010 stats were partially the result of his team-hopping, but I'm still not subscribing to it. Is he still serviceable? Sure, but there are other options out there, ones which aren't potential cancers.
It's hilarious that you'll lump me into a "some of us" category, when clearly, I know more about this team and this game than most on this site (including yourself). I'm not disregarding the rest of the game. I just feel like Moss can make an impact in a small role. He'll draw double teams deep, and if team decide to double Holmes instead, then Sanchez will have the best vertical receiver of all-time in single coverage.
I am willing to declare that this team is cancer-proof. There are too many veterans, too much leadership. He wouldn't DARE play half ass and then have to look Sanchez, Tomlinson, Scott, Revis, Harris, and Rex in the eyes. And if he did, he'd be gone, and quick. We don't have enough of a need for him to put up with any antics. He'd get the door. When you think about it this way, assuming the numbers aren't bad, this is a very low risk acquisition.
