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  1. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    I can see that being the regular season.

    The quality of play will decrease if that's true. So the Dallas Cowboys under Wade Phillips is what we are going to see league wide..... ugh.
     
  2. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    Smith, IMO, is doing some posturing that is unneeded at this point. He doesn't need to tell me that its equally serious to re-certify. He needs to get the players to do it. It was the best strategy to collectively bargain, but now that the negotiations are over its time to put the pieces back together. The owners are about to look real good by voting, approving and putting all the pressure on the players to have football return to us once again.

    Just get the union back together. It won't take long. That conference call should set up re-certifying. Chris Cooley was on NFLN, he said the vote should be tomorrow or during the weekend. I can see players returning on monday, and maybe, just maybe, the HOF Game will be salvaged. I want to see Sam Bradford throw 4 passes.
     
  3. milo

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    The compensation for Vincent Jackson and Logan Mankins to sign off on the lawsuit settlement has been agreed upon.

    Both will receive a

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  4. BK_Jetsfan

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/21/logan-mankins-apparenty-isnt-happy-with-jeff-kessler/

    Logan Mankins apparenty isn’t happy with Jeff Kessler
    Posted by Mike Florio on July 21, 2011, 4:04 PM EDT

    In the past few days since Ron Borges of the Boston Herald first speculated (likely with more information than he let on) that Patriots guard Logan Mankins would demand something for signing his name to the Tom Brady class action, we’ve heard nothing from Mankins or his agent, Frank Bauer.

    We have now.

    “I think it’s realy unfair what has happened to Logan Mankins in media characterizations that he is making monetary demands or holding up a settlement,” Frank Bauer told Chris Mortensen of ESPN. “Logan Mankins is a young man who was encouraged and solicited into a lawsuit to help the union spearhead a new agreement. Logan’s main concern for entering into as a plaintiff was to see if he can become free and help other players have less restrictions. For people to say he has made monetary demands, he hasn’t made any such demand. We don’t know terms. We haven’t talked to [NFLPA* attorney] Jeff Kessler. There has been no communication, but it’s irresponsible to report Logan has made monetary demands.

    “Are we disappointed there has been no communication? Hugely. He trusted the union and Kessler to fight for Logan Mankins and the other players.”

    It has been widely reported that Kessler has been demanding free agency or free money for Mankins and Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson. Apparently, Kessler made his demands without making sure that Mankins wanted free agency or free money.

    Now, Mankins apparently wants a free run at Kessler.

    Mankins may have to get in line.
     
  5. BK_Jetsfan

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    I truly hope you're right. Getting freakin antsy watching this all unfold on twitter, pft, etc. Such a clusterfuck.
     
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    NFL Network's Scott Hanson reports Thursday that the owners do have enough votes to pass the new collective bargaining agreement.
     
  7. Rockefella

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    I'm convinced the NFL is doing this on purpose just to keep up media coverage of football throughout the offseason. All spring and summer we talked about the lockout and it will remain that way up until the first preseason game.
     
  8. MBGreen

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    the only person that can end this lockout is Rob Gronkowski.
     
  9. milo

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    And how is that different than last year? By now if it were a normal off-season there would have been 5,000 win-loss prediction articles written, endless speculation on which free agent would help who the most, and OTA's on live coverage (not to mention about 25 Rex pressers by now which I am SEVERELY missing).

    They got so goddamn bored this off-season that at one point Total Access ran a 12 minute segment on the top ten beards in the league.

    If anything this was a fantastic way to kill an off-season quietly. Shit the Phins trolls didn't even show up til yesterday.
     
  10. BK_Jetsfan

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    So I guess hopefully tonight all voting gets done.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6789837/nfl-lockout-owners-vote-thursday

    Updated: July 21, 2011, 5:05 PM ET
    Sources: NFL to vote Thursday
    By John Clayton

    ATLANTA -- NFL owners plan to vote on whether to accept a new labor agreement beginning at 6 p.m. ET Thursday, multiple sources said.

    The agreement the owners will vote on is a global settlement deal that includes terms of a new collective bargaining agreement. Commissioner Roger Goodell will be given authorization to sign a deal with the NFL Players Association when it becomes a bargaining agent again -- though with limitations or consequences if not done soon, sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

    Players have scheduled an 8 p.m. ET conference call with their executive committee and player reps to decide whether to accept an approved settlement from owners, and how to start the voting process for the 1,900 players who have to decide if they want to vote in a recertified union.

    NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith addressed the ongoing negotiations in a short news conference outside the trade association's Washington, D.C., headquarters.

    "We continue to talk. There are some issues that are outstanding that are left to resolve," Smith said.

    He also said the decision to recertify as a union wouldn't be taken lightly, just as the choice to decertify in March was taken seriously "because we were a real union" -- taking a shot at owners' claims that the NFLPA's decertification was a "sham."

    "The decision to decertify as a union was a significant one," Smith said. "Every individual person has to make a decision on whether they want to become part of a union. The individual decisions are something that our players take extremely serious."

    As part of the proposed settlement the owners will vote on, the 10 plaintiffs who attached their names to the players' antitrust lawsuit against the NFL -- including Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees -- will not net any financial or tactical gains, according to sources.

    According to multiple sources, the proposed labor agreement doesn't change the status of any of the plaintiffs. For example, a request by San Diego Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson to receive a $10 million settlement won't happen.

    Any conversations about changing the franchise rule in favor of Manning and Brees, a rule that would allow a player to be franchised once in his career, went unanswered, according to sources.

    The proposed deal keeps franchise tagging rules as they have been in past agreements.

    Frank Bauer, the agent for New England Patriots guard Logan Mankins, who is one of the named plaintiffs, responded Thursday to reports that Mankins had demanded special considerations.

    "I think it's realy unfair what has happened to Logan Mankins in media characterizations that he is making monetary demands or holding up a settlement," Bauer told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.

    "Logan Mankins is a young man who was encouraged and solicited into a lawsuit to help the union spearhead a new agreement. Logan's main concern for entering into as a plaintiff was to see if he can become free and help other players have less restrictions. For people to say he has made monetary demands, he hasn't made any such demand. We don't know terms. We haven't talked to (NFLPA attorney) Jeff Kessler. There has been no communication, but it's irresponsible to report Logan has made monetary demands.

    "Are we disappointed there has been no communication? Hugely. He trusted the union and Kessler to fight for Logan Mankins and the other players."

    Bauer conceded that Mankins could reserve the option of continuing his antitrust case against the NFL.

    According to sources, both sides are getting closer to resolving differences on workman’s' compensation issues that have become costly to owners.

    Left open for discussion is whether the league will go ahead and vote on a new CBA without a complete settlement of the lawsuit against owners who established a $4 billion insurance provision from the television networks in case there was no football in 2011.

    If a deal is passed by both sides, team executives would be schooled later Thursday and Friday in Atlanta on the deal's guidelines and how to apply them. Clarification would be needed on the 2011 NFL calendar, rookie salary system and new free-agency rules.

    Goodell maintained contact with Smith throughout Wednesday evening and Thursday morning in one-on-one phone conversations to iron out remaining issues in the bargaining process, a league source told ESPN's Sal Paolantonio.

    Goodell joined the NFL's management council executive committee when it began meeting at 8 a.m. ET, while still staying in contact with Smith via phone.

    If the four-month lockout -- the NFL's first work stoppage since 1987 -- is going to end in time to keep the preseason completely intact, the players and owners almost certainly must ratify the deal this week. The St. Louis Rams and Chicago Bears are scheduled to open the preseason Aug. 7 in the Hall of Fame game.

    Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher told ESPN's George Smith that he doubts that opening preseason game will happen.

    "I think the Hall of Fame Game is a no go even if we get it done today," he said, adding that "we still have to have time for free agency and all that stuff."

    The Bears were scheduled to open training camp Friday.
     
  11. CJLang

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    First off, the owners assumed that they were negotiating with the defacto union. I'm sure they wouldn't have negotiated with De and the unions player reps otherwise.

    If the players didn't want to recertify, they should have said something a month ago! If they don't recertify, the agreement is non-binding and none of this means shit.

    Sounds more and more like this Kessler fuck is doing everything he can to fuck this up.
     
  12. ace_o_spades

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    Can somebody explain what the players would stand to gain by not recertifying?
     
  13. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Fuck you DeMaurice Smith you Fucking attention whore!
     
  14. CJLang

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    If they don't recertify and accept the agreement, the NFL is not safe from antitrust litigation. This means if some guy is drafted next year #1 and doesn't like the salary slotting agreed to in this contract, they can sue the league, because the CBA will be non-binding...

    This is exactly what Kessler has wanted since day 1. He even spoke on it last year (I'll try to find it). He wants there to be no draft, just free enterprise. Players play for whoever they want with no caps etc.... Douchebag he is!
     
  15. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Football would have been covered all off-season long if this lockout wouldn't have been going on. Probably much more so. This has been the worst off-season ever!
     
  16. Scikotic

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    I quit football.
     
  17. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    fuck you kessler! Fuck you jerry Richardson!
     
  18. Scikotic

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    Murrell went off the deep end.

    Quick, grab my haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnd.........
     
  19. milo

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    Watching Tannenbaum stuff his face at the buffet line.

    Owners meetings are must see TV.
     
  20. ace_o_spades

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    That's crazy, hopefully the players aren't dumb enough to think that there is actually a possibility of the NFL owners agreeing to a CBA w/o recertification by the NFLPA
     
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