Accd to article just posted on espn.com, here is the piece that deals with players with 4 yrs in and no contract "If and when there an agreement is reached, all players with four or more years of experience are expected to be unrestricted free agents, according to sources familiar with the talks. Certain tags will be retained but that still is being discussed." Holmes, Braylon etc
Full article herein Among the details NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is revealing to owners Tuesday at the owners' meeting in Rosemont, Ill., is that in the next proposed agreement players will receive a 48 percent share of "all revenue," without the $1-billion-plus credit off the top that had been a point of contention in earlier negotiations, according to sources familiar with the presentation. Under the new formula being negotiated, players will receive 48 percent of all revenue and will never dip below a 46.5 percent take of the money, sources said. Proposed CBA Details Details of a proposed collective bargaining agreement being pitched to NFL owners Tuesday, according to sources: • Players get 48 percent of "all revenue," without extra $1-billion-plus off top that previously had been requested by owners. • Players' share will never dip below 46.5 percent, under new formula being negotiated. • Teams required to spend minimum 90-93 percent of the salary cap. • Rookie wage scale part of deal but still being "tweaked." • 18-game regular season designated only as negotiable item and at no point is mandated in deal. • New 16-game Thursday night TV package beginning in 2012. • Owners still will get some expense credits that will allow funding for new stadiums. • Retirees to benefit from improved health care, pension benefits as revenue projected to double to $18 million by 2016. -- ESPN's Chris Mortensen In the previous collective bargaining agreement, players received approximately 60 percent of "total revenue" but that did not include $1 billion that was designated as an expense credit off the top of the $9 billion revenue model. Owners initially were seeking another $1 billion in credit only to reduce that amount substantially before exercising the lockout on March 13. Ultimately, the two sides have decided to simplify the formula, which will eliminate some tedious accounting audits of the credit the players have allowed in the previous deal. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith has stated that players were actually receiving around 53 percent of all revenues instead of the much advertised 60 percent. Owners still will get some expense credits that will allow funding for new stadium construction, sources said. A rookie wage scale will be part of the new deal but is still being "tweaked," and the much-discussed 18-game regular season will be designated only as a negotiable item with the players and at no point is mandated in a potential agreement. A new 16-game Thursday night TV package beginning in 2012 will be the source of new revenue. As revenues are projected to possibly double by 2016 to $18 billion annually, retired players will benefit from improved health and pension funding that is expected to increase significantly. Players believe they can justify a 48 percent take because of the projected revenue growth, as well as built-in mechanisms that require teams to spend a minimum of 90-93 percent of the salary cap, sources said. The mandatory minimum spending increase is an element that concerns lower-revenue clubs, sources say. A league source told ESPN's Sal Paolantonio that there will not be a vote on a new collective bargaining agreement Tuesday. "This is strictly informational. There is nothing to vote on," the source told ESPN. The negotiating teams for the owners and players, led by Goodell and Smith, are expected to return to the table most likely Wednesday and Thursday at an undisclosed site, hoping to build off the momentum of three strong weeks of talks under the supervision of a court-appointed mediator, U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan. A source told ESPN.com's John Clayton that talks are scheduled to resume Wednesday in Boston. Cautious expectations on the two sides reaching an agreement in principle are varied, ranging from one-to-three weeks with the hopes of beginning a new league year (free agency, etc.) by mid-July. If and when an agreement is reached, all players whose contracts have expired and have four or more years of experience are expected to be unrestricted free agents, sources familiar with the talks told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. Certain tags will be retained but that still is being discussed. Players are willing to commit to at least a 10-year labor agreement if the sides can agree on the terms, sources told Clayton. Any breakdown in talks could result in the loss of preseason games and threaten the opening of the regular season. The first preseason game, at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, is scheduled for Aug. 7. "This is the season to get a deal," Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay said before entering the conference room where representatives from all 32 teams were being updated by Goodell and his negotiating committee. "I think the logic that you're pushing on both sides is saying why get a deal Oct. 1, or whenever, when you could have had July 7, or whatever." Tuesday marks Day 98 of the lockout, the NFL's first work stoppage since 1987 and the longest in NFL history. Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Information from ESPN.com senior NFL writer John Clayton, ESPN reporter Sal Paolantonio, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter and The Associated Press also was used in this report.
Two factors that mean that I'm not unduly concerned about such an eventuality: 1 - we don't know what the wage cap will be, but it's fair to assume that we'll have some extra space to offer them the big money they're after, and 2 - if all of our FAs with four years or more are unrestricted, so are everyone else's. If we lose a couple of our big players, you can be damn sure that there will be plenty of others for whom the Jets and particularly Rex will be right at the top of the agent's call list.
As long as this shit gets done, the stipulations don't matter to me unless they're too extreme and I can't see that happening.
Not really. The articles are reporting that the players get 48%, which works out to 139.5 million per team, or a salary cap of about 125 and benefits of 14 or 15 million per team.
I thought it'd be about $10 million more than your number. At least I hope so, because that's just about what it was in 2009. It has to go up.
(9.3 billion * .48 percent)/32= 139.5, and most of the proposals have benefits in the 15 million range.
Also under the new deal teams would be paying out $27 million in benefits to provide better coverage for retired players. I know the formula you're using is correct but some other money must be included in this. Not that it must, I am just hoping. To me players agreeing to a deal that could potentially have a lower cap than we did in 09 is just stupid.
there are going to be a dick load of free agents now. sucks we lose alot of our tendered guys, but now OLB's, and DE's everywhere.
Why does everyone assume that we're automatically going to lose guys just because they become FAs? The Jets are more than capable of keeping who they want.
Holmes is without a doubt gone IMO. Holmes hasn't received his big payday yet like Braylon has. With everything Holmes has already accomplished I can't really blame him for taking the most money offered either. The Lions have some space to sign him, could you imagine that?
It's awfully pesimistic to just assume we'll lose some of our best players. The Jets are going to keep those players whom they think will give them the best chance to win the Super Bowl.
I like how the CBA hasn't even been drawn up yet....and the sky is already falling for some of you people with regards to Free Agency. Relax and have a pepsi.
