Source: Jets to tag David Harris

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  1. Sir

    Sir New Member

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    That should have nothing to do with it at all, applying that kind of reasoning makes absolutely no sense. If we were to trade or let go of Harris there would be considerable risk when replacing him.

    Not saying it might not be the right move if the value in return was right but just because we've been fortunate enough to have serviceable-to-good MLB's in the recent past doesn't mean you simply get rid of him in a trade or through free agency because "we've easily been able to replace them in the past". It doesn't work like that.
     
  2. Sir

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    Backup QB in the 4th round would be horrific.
     
  3. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Not a big fan of double dipping, I do like the idea of doing a double down though.
     
  4. milcus

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    I dont think it should be a reason to let him walk, or trade him, but I think the Jets fan base has been spoiled with good to great MLB play for over a decade now. When you add that to the fact that he is not flashy on the field, you see why people think he is easily replaceable.
     
  5. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    i don't see a 1st and 3rd pick happening.
    a 1st could be possible though, and the Jets would heavily need to consider an offer of a 1st.
    I'd hate to see any of these guys go, but if we can get good value for one of them, that would make a lot of sense.
     
  6. Vorrecht

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    Slightly off topic, how do we know for sure that Aso is going to want more money than Cro? He's already made a ridiculous amount of money and he wants to play for Rex/with Revis.
     
  7. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    :breakdance: what?
     
  8. Vorrecht

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    Directed at people that would rather use the tag on someone else.
     
  9. ajetsfan4ever

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    holmes!!!!!!!
     
  10. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    If it was a serious question it still makes no sense. You can hope that Aso would take less to win but it isn't likely.
     
  11. ........

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    You can't look at Willis' contract as a true 5 year/50 million deal. Part of that 50 million bumped up his pay over the first year. It was done in order to reward him for his performance, and the structure of the deal makes it look less like an extension and more like a fresh contract. If you prorate his signing bonus, he earns $33.92 million over the 5 year "extension" period, which averages out to just under $7 million per. Hardly the 5 year 50 million that the language would have you believe. Harris isn't going to sign a fresh contract for $10 million per and I'm not sure why you would believe that, especially as a "guaranteed" value. Compared to other ILB, that would be like a Nnamdi type deal.

    I'm starting to think you don't know much about contracts.
     
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    I don't see anyone trading for Bart's contract. Pace will likely be on the roster for two more seasons and then cut in 2013.
     
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    True, but he doesn't have an $8 million per year impact on our defense.
     
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    The money that they'll likely combine for is what's wrong with Harris and Scott.

    Aside from that, absolutely right that OLB will be addressed in the draft. It's the other positions that we need money for.
     
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    uhhhh, what?
     
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    Why would it be so horrific? QB is THE most important position in football. Brunell may not be back, and even if he is, I doubt he could play many games. Clemens may be gone as well. Who's gonna play QB if Sanchez goes down with an injury???? The Jets have a definite need at backup QB. Dalton's a good prospect. Getting him in the 4th round would be a bit of a steal.
     
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    And you've shown you know zero on this subject. You certainly don't know what prorate means. His deal had 5 new years and 50 million new dollars.

    I also never said Harris would get 5/50 guaranteed.
     
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    Harris is gonna go to Baltimore
     
  19. Mambo9

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    Mmm... are you so sure? La Repubblica is also reporting that when Leonhard isn't on the field Harris handles radio duties and that our run D is so good in large part because of Harris.
    Then if you scroll down to the editorials you might read that the fact Pace is vastly overpaid (At least for what he has produced this year, in 2009 he was better) and that one might also consider Scott overpaid (although his contract lowers to 6 and 7 mills in 2011 and 2012) shouldn't influence the Jets opinion on how much money Harris is worth.

    It's really a good newspaper! Awaiting answers from the NY post...

    BTW There is one thing the Jets could/should do to make Harris' deal more cap friendly... and that is put in a HUGE amount of upfront money... I'm rooting for a 5 yrs deal with a 7.5/8 mill average (which means the first year should be about 6.5/7 on the cap).

    PS Pace cap number for 2011 is 7.1 and Scott's is 6.5... not really outrageous numbers... especially if Pace produces like in 2009.
     
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    Then you must view Revis' contract as a 1 year, $29.3 million extension, since that's what was added to his remaining 3 years.

    $20 million of Willis' "extension" is paid out over last year and the next two, aka prior to the 5 year extension. I was being generous by using cap value rather than real money, hence the use of prorated bonus money. The idea that Harris would get a contract based on the value of the extension is laughable given the way it was paid out.
     

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