What we did wrong in Foxboro

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  1. Wizard Of Odds

    Wizard Of Odds New Member

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    It amazes me that this coaching staff doesn't seem to be able to adjust to gametime conditions the way they should. They knew, or should have known, exactly what Tom Brady was going to do in that game. Why they gave him the opportunity to do it over and over again is baffling to me. If you have a team with a bigtime passing attack your #1 priority is to LIMIT THEIR ON-FIELD TIME! You do that buy running the ball and slowing the game down. When things started to go really crazy in the 1st quarter the Jets should have primarily ran the ball to control time of possession and keep Brady off the field. Instead they started to try and get back in it by getting into a shootout with them.

    The Jets averaged almost 5 yards a carry in that game, so why didn't they just go with that? It would have kept Brady off the field, and when he's off the field he's not scoring on you. This is something we talked about all week. It was very obvious that the Jets needed to do this to beat the Pats, but they failed to employ the strategy... WHY? You know what the logical thing to do is but you don't do it??? This is fundamental football strategy that any high school coach knows! The Jets had success running the ball, and if they had fallen back on that strength they could have slowed the game down and taken some of the electricity out of the situation for the Pats and the crowd at Foxboro. It seems to me that the Jets coaches just don't understand funadmental football strategy too well. Any one of use would have known what to do here, but a multimillion dollar NFL coaching staff doesn't???

    As it turned out, the Pats won the Time of Possession war. The won the passing war too because we gave them the opportunity to win it by letting them have possession after possession after possession. I don't think the problem is our personnel so much as our inability to know what to do under all gametime situations. The Jets coaching staff just doesn't seem to employ fundamental football strategy in order to take away an opponents most powerful weapons. If you can't stop the pass with your defense then stop it with your offense! Slow the game down... run the ball primarily... burn as much clock as possible... don't give the other team the ball... These are things any football layman knows, so why doesn't our coaching staff seem to know it?
     
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    And if you look at the Cleveland-Pats game, what did Cleveland do? They ran the ball at them! All game long they ran the ball at them. Why did they do that? 1) because it was working. 2) because it kept Brady off the field.

    The Jets had a blueprint for victory right there, and they failed to employ it... They've got no one to blame but themselves.
     
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    and that falls all on shotty. we will more than likely keep losing key games versus better opponents because he will simply be out coached.
     
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    Pretty sad when you have 2 HBs that are avging close to 5 YPC for a game, yet you end up with only 3 points.
     
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    Everything.
     
  6. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    I want Josh McDaniels in 2011, he'd be perfect for Mark and use his abilities not limit them.
     
  7. Wizard Of Odds

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    And we also knew that the Pats were 2nd in the league in Interceptions. All the more reason to keep the ball on the ground right? Mindboggling!
     
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    I liked the Hurry up offense to start the game...

    They should do that again this week.

    BUT, what you do is, once you get passed the 50 on 1st down you GO FOR IT... Throw to the Endzone - You have to in this league at the least give a ref a chance to give you a bad call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have to take as many chances on these throws as you can otherwise you wind up crying about all the PI calls the other team gets..

    Then, on 2nd down you RUN...

    3rd down.. Run again... Even 3rd and 6. With the D in pass defense you'll at least come close...

    Then 4th down.. GO FOR IT... RUN IT....

    The Jets need to get points on the board early and then Ground and Pound for a game.


    The 3rd down play below should have been a RUN.. THEY SHOULD HAVE PLANNED ON GOING FOR IT ON 4th ALL ALONG IN THOSE CONDITIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO FG!!!


    1-10-NE38 (7:34) (No Huddle, Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass incomplete short left to L.Tomlinson.
    2-10-NE38 (7:27) L.Tomlinson up the middle to NE 35 for 3 yards (G.Guyton, J.Sanders).
    3-7-NE35 (7:00) (No Huddle, Shotgun) M.Sanchez pass incomplete short middle to L.Tomlinson [V.Wilfork].
    4-7-NE35 (6:55) N.Folk 53 yard field goal is No Good, Short, Center-T.Purdum, Holder-S.Weatherford.
     
  9. Jet Blue

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    The jets coaches have to know exactly when they are going to go for it on 4th down..

    They seem to makes decisions on the fly where Bellichik has it all planned out...

    WIND AND COLD.... YOU ARE GOING FOR IT ON 4th at the 35.... SO RUN on 3rd.. At least make it close!!!
     
  10. LTrules

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    I'll say it again


    The Jets were outplayed but the mistake Rex made was going for that 53 yard FG in the swirling wind, that was retarded. Punt and pin NE back. That being said, it was a larger mistake to get into an aerial battle with Tom Brady. Sanchez is no Brady and anyone who argues the opposite is dead wrong. The game plan should have been run LT, pound the clock and play field position. Not throw to freaking Santonio, who talked trash after every eight yard gain. Really?

    We can all hate Tom Brady, but that dude is super dangerous the best plan is to keep him off the field and when he is on, pinned back. Not going for 50 yard field goals and then trying to shoot it out with him. This is not the same Patriots team we smashed in week 2. He has literally six different weapons to throw to and those freaking Tight Ends are rookies. SICK!
     
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    It's not too mind boggling. Do you actually think the jets are secretly planning to lose the rest of the games this season so they can secure a better draft pick come next April?

    These coaches spend hours and hours in game planning and analyzing game film of opponents. They are well aware of strengths and weaknesses of both teams. The jets had their own blueprint of how to beat the pats having done so earlier in the season.


    I think the jets just had an off nights ...
     
  12. MadBacker Prime

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    The reason for that is, everyone throws on them because they have the worst pass defense in yards allowed.

    it was just a poor gameplan combined with poor execution, just like the GB game. Except this game our defense also played bad.
     
  13. LTrules

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    The Jets wanted to show that they could air it out with Brady. Stupid plan.
     
  14. Wizard Of Odds

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    I understand all that, but when the game starts to get away from you and electricty sweeps over the crowd you have to do something to tone that situation down. You can't let the opponent ride the wave of electricty... When that happens you have to start chipping away with the run and establishing a long time consuming drive. The Jets had the ability to do that but elected not to. They let the electricity build to a crescendo... YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT.
     
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    red75bronco Well-Known Member

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    This is the last thing the Jets need. I live in Denver and Denver's offense is not that good. They have no running game, the passing game is only between the 20's. They cannot get short yardage anywhere on the field. He is the king of gimmicky offenses.
     
  16. MadBacker Prime

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    QB does very well with nothing. Josh handled the Pats pretty well, especially in 07 when they broke all kinds of records.

    This team has the talent in it to do special things on offense, not just survive.

    Look how well Orton played and he was garbage up until now. He was the HC in Denver, much more responsibility, her could just focus on offense again.
     
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    When they were up by two scores in the 1st quarter and the crowd started going crazy and Brady was firing all cylinders the one thing on the Jets coaches minds should have been "WHOA... we gotta slow this thing down". There should have been an urgency to settle the situation down by establishing the run and putting together some long drives. This would have given them a fighting chance. But I think the coaches got caught up in the electricity instead, they got scared, and cooler heads did not prevail.
     
  18. LTrules

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    They did not get scared, they wanted to match gun fire with gun fire. Unfortunately Sanchez does not have the firepower that Brady has. Simply put his is not as good, not even close. The Jets advantage was the running game and they did not use it. Stupid.
     
  19. BillyD0123

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    Why why why?

    Do you fans place the blame on a second banana? The head coach tells the OC where he wants to emphisize the game time play schedule when the team prepares at practice during the week. Ryan signed off on that game plan okay! Rex hears all the plays called during the game as well.
    Rex is the man, and he gets the blame or credit.
     
  20. BillyD0123

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    Very true.

    Josh unlike Mangini has honor. And won't coach in the AFC east as long as his mentor is on the sidline in New England
     

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