Offenses don't thrive on creativity. You need a solid foundation of, here it comes...try and stop it. That's what we are missing. You can't develop that with pass plays that take two semesters to develop... Schotty's 'offense' would be a complimentary piece to a solid attack
2nd year QB that has had a top 10 QB season Unless #25 is in the top 10, no he hasn't. Mark Sanchez's QB rating is lower than Chad Henne's. Completions: #16 Attempts: #13 Completion %: #29 Yards: #14 Average: #24 Yards/G: #24 TD: #17 INT: #8 (that's 8th most) Rating: #25
I saw a QB making bad decision after bad decision and we were 8-3 more in spitre of Brett than b/c of him. he had about 3-4 good games all year and was outplayed in games by Tyler Thigpen, JaMarcus Russell and Seneca Wallace among others.
Yep and his #s were very good until last night and he has been the biggest reason we are 9-3 so what is the problem w/ sanchez 2010? stop w/ the nonsense, either participate or don't.
Completely agree. With schitty, as soon as something works, he stops. He assumes the defense will be able to adjust to it before they do. It would be like NE stopping all the short throws to Welker, Woodhead last night. We would have thanked them. Yet, schitty does this every fkng game
because Sanchez hasn't been that great outside of the last few minutes/ot in any game since Week 4. Look at his stats and prove me otherwise. Weeks 5-13, he's been below average. His rating is in the pits. Take away the end of those close games and he's just as bad as last year.
Defend Schotty to your deathbed. I won't stop you. Think about this however: Matt Cassel, when he was forced into the starting role, performed like this: Played: 16 games Comp/Att: 327/516 (62.7%) Yardage: 3693 (230/game) TD/INT: 21/11 Remember. Prior to this, Matt Cassel never started at ANY level, dating back to his HS days. ------------------------------------------------------- Now that I think of it, McD may not be what I once thought he was. If anything, Cheat has been calling the shots (both offensive and defensive) ever since Charlie Weiss left the team. All of those 'protege' were merely assistants - like Mangini or McD. They never quite had the full responsibility of a coordinator. Maybe bringing in McD isn't such a good thing after all. P.S. Which also proves what a heck of a coach Cheat really is.
I think if Sanchez plays a better game, no one would be talking about getting a new OC. IMO Sanchez is the problem. Whenever he throws, everything floats, just asking to be picked off. Brady,he drops back, he throws and the ball comes authoratively. Sanchez's body language says "no confidence" and his play has reflected it. Let's face it, if he doesn't pick up his game, this team is dead in the water.
Good grief, guys. Everything minus the running game failed last night. Even our punter had a shit game, and he's been solid as a rock this year. There aren't enough fingers to point at the problem last night. I'm sure our kickoff tee retriever probably fucked up last night as well, the way things went. Someone said it in another thread, that was the perfect storm of fail. The only thing that's good is that its over.
I could not disagree more. Sanchez was a bit off, no doubt. BUT, I ask you, what is easier to do, throw a ball to a WR/Back without a defender within 5 yards, or throw to a WR/Back who is BLANKETED by the defense? Because that was what Sanchez was dealing with all game long! He made bad decisions, but they were on badly designed and badly called plays. He is young, the OC job is to understand his players and put them in positions to succeed. Calling plays where the primary receiver is going to be in the vicinity of 4 defenders. That is play design, and play calling. That is the definition of a poor OC.
He's ben good or better in the following games: NE Mia Buf Det Cle Hou He's been average in the following: Min Den Cin He's been bad in the following: Bal GB at NE I'll take that ratio for a 2nd year QB. yep and how many playoff games did they play in that year? cassell had been in NE's system for years, he knew it inside and out and had the best QB in the game to help him and he won 6 fewer games as a starter than Brady did the year before.
Oh sweet Jesus. And you do not plan on talking about Kellen Clemens, with all his years under Schotty's system right? The body of work is out there. It's just you are refusing to accept it. P.S. They didn't play any because of regular season record (neither did Favre's Jets that year, by the way). Were they better team than dolphags at the end of the season? I would think so. Wouldn't have gone anywhere past Ravens, but that's another story.
Well..let's agree to disagree. I think you're making excuses for him. You're right,the OC's job is design and call the plays. Sanchez's job is execute the plan. He could not. Not every designed play is going to work, sometimes it take improvisation. Sanchez clearly has not mastered that, or more importantly he doesn't seem to be in sync with receivers. How many times have you seen where he is scrambling, the receivers can't or don't come back to him. I'm just saying that in order for this team to get better the quarterback has to improve.
His team collapsing last year was due to his shitty defense and his moron personnel decisions. Put the leash on him and he'd do fine.
As I said, prior to week 5, he was lights out. So let's look at your list. NE - Week 2 Mia - Week 3 Buf - Week 4 Det - It wasn't until the last 2 minutes of the game until the offense started clicking. The offense was putrid for 58 minutes. Detroit defense, ranked 21 Cle - I'll give you this game, Cleveland defense, ranked 22 Hou - Fair enough. Houston defense, ranked 29. This game was close because the Jets defense sucked. Still, I can honestly give Sanchez 2.25 excellent games since week 5.
Clemens played in year 2 of Schottenheimer's system, Cassel was in year 4- that is a HUGE difference. cassel also took over a team that was UNDEFEATED the year before and had Randy Moss trying.
I agree with you that he has done a good job with Mark... something that is completely underrated by most of the fan base. I have seen a few Broncos games this season and I think McDaniels could do some good stuff with the talent that we have around Sanchez. We are on the same page with Schotty not being anywhere near as bad as most would want to make him out to be. That doesn't change the fact that we could are likely watching the last season with Schotty at OC no matter what happens the rest of the way so in grand scheme of things I wouldn't hate McDaniels as an OC replacement. I also don't think this will happen but if it did I wouldn't hate it.
Why has he done a good job with Marc? Can someone please explain what HE has done with Marc? I think putting Marc in terrible situations is not good for his development, in fact, I think Marc has shown his best play when he has been taken out of Schitty's hands, and into 2 minute offense.
If Schottenheimer leaves, it will be for a head coaching opportunity somewhere. And if that happened, Callahan would immediately be elevated to OC. I can't see it happening any way other than that.
