Jeff Fisher = Overrated

Discussion in 'National Football League' started by GreenMachine, Nov 29, 2010.

  1. GreenMachine

    Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2003
    Messages:
    12,528
    Likes Received:
    6
    5-6 in the post season.

    0-1 in a SB he got to on an illeagal forward pass

    6 playoff appearences in 16 years.

    Hell, the Jets have the same number of appearnces in the postseason under 5 different coaches. And are 5-6 in the post season over the same time.
     
  2. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    21,496
    Likes Received:
    314
    He's 141-112 as a coach. He's a good coach. A great one? Maybe not, so I guess you could argue he's overrated. But usually people don't talk about him as the best coach in the NFL.
     
  3. Rockefella

    Rockefella Trolls

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2009
    Messages:
    3,669
    Likes Received:
    0
    Considering he's done relatively well in that time span without a 'franchise' quarterback, I'd consider him good/great. He had McNair for a while but since his absence hasn't had consistency at the most important position. Probably doesn't help that the team shows little activity in free agency. Deserves more credit than that I think.
     
  4. Mr Electric

    Mr Electric Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    18,362
    Likes Received:
    1
    Good post.

    If Tennessee had consistent quarterback play, they'd be a playoff contender, especially in division like the AFC South.
     
  5. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2007
    Messages:
    22,432
    Likes Received:
    3
    I was going to post that.


    The only time he's done well was with an actual QB. He's been consistent.

    He didn't want Young, and I more than agree with him on that. I would have never have taken him either.

    Get him a franchise QB and he'll do well.

    If Garrett doesn't work out, I could see him in Dallas. I think Garrett gets the job though
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    53,044
    Likes Received:
    1,434
    He's overrated as a championship caliber coach but he's a great reg season coach and will more oftne than not have his teams in position to do something in january- sort of like a modern day marty Schottenheimer except he at last has a SB app.
     
  7. thatisjetsfootball

    thatisjetsfootball Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    553
    Likes Received:
    36
    Well he basically had to go to the playoffs as a wildcard for the past 10 seasons playing against peyton manning and the colts. He might be a little overrated but he is still a great coach. 141-112 as a coach is an amazing stat his team never really gives up!!1
     
  8. Green Hurricane

    Green Hurricane Footsteps Falco

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2003
    Messages:
    7,728
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was on a Titans message board the other day to see what they wanted in the draft, and there was a thread where about 80% of the posters said Head Coach was the team's biggest need. It just struck me, considering I figured that he was a beloved figure down in Nashville. I guess the grass isn't greener down there.
     
  9. Namath2Kolber

    Namath2Kolber New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2006
    Messages:
    3,970
    Likes Received:
    1
    After the end of the Herm era, there were rumors the Jets would get Fisher as their new head coach and I was praying they would get him. Still wish that had come through, as much as I love Rex.
     
  10. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

    Joined:
    May 20, 2003
    Messages:
    20,810
    Likes Received:
    232
    He's been there too long.
     
  11. AJayJay

    AJayJay New Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,319
    Likes Received:
    0
  12. DustinK

    DustinK New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    194
    Likes Received:
    0
    The owner is the problem, not the coach. Fisher does a lot with so little since they let all their players go who are in their prime.
     
  13. JfaulkNYJ

    JfaulkNYJ New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2009
    Messages:
    6,967
    Likes Received:
    0
    i think he is a good coach. before we got rex i would want this guy.

    you can say the same thing about andy reid being overrated too.
     
  14. Ten

    Ten Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2004
    Messages:
    3,617
    Likes Received:
    1
    IIRC,the Titans were the last team to really end up in salary cap hell.They had to completely rebuild the team in the middle of the decade.
     
  15. thegoldengod

    thegoldengod Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2004
    Messages:
    2,689
    Likes Received:
    9
    the Frank Wycheck play was legal...on initial glance i thought no way, but the call was right.

    besides...Belicheck w/o the tuck rule may have never amounted to anything either

    lucky and good.

    I think he is a good coach, but has never had a great qb...

    I'd say his biggest knock has been Manning's dominance over his team/division...that's why I like Rex's focus on NE.
     
  16. RunLeonRun

    RunLeonRun Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2008
    Messages:
    2,705
    Likes Received:
    0
    fisher is definitely overrated for someone who has never won in 14 years in one place.
     
  17. GreenMachine

    Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2003
    Messages:
    12,528
    Likes Received:
    6
    So without that one play, the Pats would have not won 2 other SBs?

    That is funny.
     
  18. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

    Joined:
    May 20, 2003
    Messages:
    20,810
    Likes Received:
    232
    He is now 146-123 (regular season 141-117; postseason 5-6).

    Maybe it is a bit strange, but the league's default is to record regular season and postseason records together when it comes to coaches. Fisher is currently 20th on the all-time wins list. Of the 19 coaches with more victories, only Dan Reeves had a worse winning percentage than Fisher.

    Coaches with more wins than Fisher who have not yet been inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame-
    Marty Schottenheimer (205-139-1)
    Dan Reeves (201-174-2)
    Chuck Knox (193-158-1)
    Bill Parcells (183-138-1)
    Mike Holmgren (174-122-0)
    Bill Belichick (172-99-0 through 12/5/10)
    Bill Cowher (161-99-1)
    Mike Shanahan (159-110-0 through 12/5/10)
    Tony Dungy (148-79-0)
     

Share This Page