I remember something J. Gruden said when he got to Tampa. He told them something like, yeah ... you guys are a good Defense I guess, but if you think you're so bad ass then how come you aren't scoring any points? Well, its looking like our D might need to switch their mentality a little bit... we do a good job at keeping teams from scoring, but its about time we start scoring some points. That's what I Think makes a good defense great! Generating turnovers and scoring points... Obviously, easier said then done, jsut wondering if Rex is starting to think in terms of that.
Nah, when Rex is coming up with a defensive gameplan the first thing that pops into his head is "when we go out there and play defense, we don't want to force turnovers"
I don't know, it could be a mentality thing... like they say, the Saints work a LOT on forcing fumbles, and for the last two seasons they've done a great job of that... there's something more to it than just ...well, it either happens or it doesn't. I think you gotta plant that in their minds. I mean on paper we don't really need to... we can just be content to keeping teams out of hte end zone most of the time because our offense is pretty darn good... on paper... I'm looking for games where our D simply takes over and suffocates the opposition into submission... games where our O could play like they did yesterday and we still win.
The Defense just held a great offense to under 10 points especially on a day when the offense didn't possess the ball very much. That's very good. Had the offense done even a little bit, this thread wouldn't exist.
Holding Aaron Rodgers to 170 yards and no touchdowns isn't good enough? It doesn't get much better than that, he's one of the best passers in football...the offense scored 0 points. 0. Why would you ever look for a game like that again anyway, a game in which we get shut out at home, that might not happen for 10 years
I think the OP has a good point about our defense. They just played there best game of the season and looked awesome, BUT, if you want to consider them great they need to score more. That's one thing they lacked last year too. There may be more days from the offense like this. Maybe Rex can teach them the new way to intercept a pass by ripping the ball out of receivers hands while they're on the ground.
i'm with ace_o_spades, our pass rush, or lack thereof, is one of the major factors in the equation of turnovers.
So the one game the team gets no turnovers, the team needs to work on getting turnovers? I hate post-loss TGG.
No, I'm just saying this in general. We have a good defense, maybe very good... but if we want to be GREAT, then we need to score points. That is all I'm saying... Ravens D in 2000, they pretty much did everything.
Yeah, and I don't understand it. Ryan unleashed them only about 4 or 5 times yesterday and every time they made Rodgers run for his life. They seem to get there at will when it's called and I don't know why they don't call it more often.
bc hen they do we have 20 threads here about how we blitz too much. and since we all know more than the CS... they listen
It's always going to come down to the lack of a pure pass rusher that can dominate from the outside. We have the free-lancer in the middle, with a solid Ted backer to block for him, and our safeties are versatile, but we are working with a Frankenstein monster from the edge. If we can find a guy with real speed to rush the blindside, this defense can attain greatness. But not before.
Those don't come around very often. I know what you are saying, but in the grand scheme of the NFL its not something that's just easily done. The defense is doing extremely well. Lowery has a pick 6, and the defense has given the offense great scoring position plenty of times. The offense has been a problem more than the defense this season. Asking more of the defense is tough when they don't give up a TD. At this point its fishing for reasons to ask the defense to do even more to cover up other phases of the game that aren't producing. This defense has shown that when healthy they hold teams to no almost no points. They can't score a defensive TD every singe game, or if the offense isn't scoring, ask the defense to just start scoring for them.
Agreed, it boggles my mind that during the two games the offense has shit the bed (Ravens+Packers), people on TGG come out and say our defense wasn't playing well enough. The defense has also improved vastly from being the Viking and Bronco games. We have a defense that certainly puts our offense in a position to win every game, thats all that is needed. Its about the offense people!
Its becoming the glaring weakness when watching this team. Draft or FA, someone has to step in and be what was never drafted. I don't count Gholston, he should have never have been a OLB. Our scouts knew it.
Our D gave up 9 points. I don't care what you wrote in the OP, your thread title alone deserves to be bashed.
We used to blitz too much with Mangini and even with Edwards because we didn't have the corners to protect it. Now we are told we do and if we do we should be blitzing more.
