I'd imagine he'd be on the field a ton. Didn't he cover Fasano a lot in the second half? We didn't really hear Fasano's name called all that much
Its Rex's scheme. he wants top CBs so he can go zero coverage and attack the QB. If he had 4 #1 CBs, he send 7 every down.
The one TD drive that the Ravens put together was definitely heavily influenced by Cromartie and Wilson penalties. So maybe they don't score on that drive if Revis is on Boldin. On the other hand, when the Jets offense has tried to lose games they are winless over the last two years. The Jets haven't won a single game that the offense sputtered in. So I think there's an equally good argument that the offense was going to find a way to lose that day no matter what the defense did. The defense was perfect on all but two drives. The offense was perfect on none.
You can also swing it and say the game where Revis was in the whole game is the game we allowed the most points, even while the offense kept giving them opportunities. Our offense scored 9 points and we lost by 1, Revis didn't allow 1 catch that game he did his job.
Darrelle Revis can do a perfect job every week and the Jets go 9-7. The point is that whether we have Darrelle Revis or not the odds are pretty good the Jets are 2-1 right now. The odds are pretty good they are 3-1 after next week. I would say the odds are excellent that we win every game this year in which the offense plays well and we lose every game they don't play well in and there are maybe a couple of games in there where the offense is iffy but not terrible and we split those.
Darrelle Revis can do a perfect job every week and the Jets could go 16-0 or 0-16. I really don't understand what you are trying to prove, it seems like you are trying to diminish Darrelle Revis' value simply based on the fact that he didn't single handily win us a game. This is the ultimate team sport, no one player is going to make all the difference. The point is, I'd rather have the top CB in the NFL than not on any given Sunday. Can we win without him? Sure. But we definitely have a better shot with him.
I suppose you could make that argument if you're willing to assume that every game is almost the same. While the offense was completely absent from the equation and did nothing to help, had Revis been able to do his normal job the Ravens probably get 6 points maximum given the way things played out. In that particular game I think it's it's more likely that we would have won with zero offense had Revis played his standard role than "normal" games than the scenario you suggest.
Vince, I think I can speak for the board when I say, we love having you around and wish you would post more often. Kyle has struggled a little bit to date, but week 1 he was on Anquan Boldin, the guy just set an NFL record Sunday, as the fastest player ever to 600 receptions. Thats an extremely tough task in your first game ever, then he turns around and the second half of week 2 shuts out the TE's and Welker (when he was on him), last night wasn't stellar, but certainly an improvement over week one. I expect week 5 against Brett Favre, Kyle gets his first career INT, and from the confidence boost he gets there, his play will improve two fold from then on. Vince, how does Kyle feel he has played to this point?
When you exclude the top tier guys (i.e., Revis, Woodson, Asomugha...etc.), I believe most CBs fall into 2 categories. They are either press coverage CBs or off coverage CBs. They are usually good at one and not so good at the other. For example, guys like Cromatie and Al Harris are better playing press than they are playing off. Conversely, guys like Barber and Samuels excel playing off man. I believe these CBs come into the league this way. From what I've seen of Wilson, he looks like a bad match for Rex's style of play. He seems to be an off man guy to me. He looks like a stud when he gets to play off. He's able to keep an eye on the WR while keeping an eye at the QB then breaks really fast on the ball. If he was playing for Tampa, Indy or Chicago, he would be having a great rookie season thus far. Too bad for him he plays for blitz happy zero coverage Rex. All his problems come when he has to press. He struggles transitioning out of his back pedal and lacks the confidence to play the ball when playing press coverage.
Don't take this the wrong way because this is a reasonable post, but Rex drafted this guy for his system. He claimed on draft day and still up to this day that he believes Kyle Wilson is the best man cover corner in this draft, and in this system it will require him to perform the task that you say he is not meant for. I trust Rex, Pettine, and Dennis Thurman to have done their homework and know that K-Dub fits their system before drafting him. He tore up the combine and has proven to be physical and have makeup speed, so the physical tools are there. Although he hasn't showed it too much in the NFL yet, we know from college that he has great instincts and ball skills, but the speed of the NFL is getting to him. It will slow down. The natural talent is there. We also hear and see his confidence and work ethic, so the desire to be great is there. In addition to his physical tools, natural talent, and work ethic is the benefit to be learning under arguably the best defensive mind in the NFL (Rex), the best DB coach in the NFL (Thurman), and the best CB in the NFL (Revis). Every one needs to give him some time, I see big things in his future.
Probably. That's why I never expect a player to jump on here. And we don't deserve players on here because you'll get one douche who wants to ask them dumbass questions. Its better if family members come on here. And everyone should always be respectful to a family member. I don't care if its Anthony Schlegel's cousin.
I think you can be good at man coverage but struggle in press. I believe they are mutually exclusive. Watch Asante Samuels play, not saying he struggles in press, but he rarely does it. Yet he is good at man coverage. He generally always gives the WR a 7-10 yard cushion even when he is playing man. He can do that because he breaks so fast on the ball when the routes are in front of him (i.e., slants, hitches and digs). Up to this point I think Wilson plays better when he doesn't have to come up and press. I didn't see him do too much pressing in Boise. He looked OK at it during the Senior Bowl practices but that's practice. In the games, he has really struggled when asked to do it.
Yes, we have lots of douches in the forums and I'd be embarrassed as a Jet fan if a player stopped by.
this is definately true. Too be totally honest, when I sit down and think about it, if my little brother were to make it in the NFL, I would be searching out message boards and talking up my little bro like no tomorrow. So to be honest, I am surprised we don't see more family members around the board. The players have enough to worry about, and their confidence does not need to be affected by this board. I'm not surprised we don't see them. I mean hell, after week 1, some wanted to bench sanchez, others wanted to fire schotty, some wanted to decapitate rex the list goes on. Last week Braylon was about to be cut/traded, we as fans tend to over-react so much, one week a player is on the road to Canton, the next he is ready to hit the waiver wire... If Drew Coleman ever wandered on the board... I mean I know his dad is a poster here, and the guy must hate how we have been trashing his son since he showed up. This week we are singing his praises for what he has done. Also he hasn't been beaten badly yet this season, which makes me think he might have turned a corner... Not into stardom or anything, but into average playerdom. He has been a ST standout so far this year as well. He isnt anything more than a jag, but he might be getting a little better under Rex is all I am saying.
Just give up already on your crusade against Revis. Such nonsense in all your posts about him. Like how about it's not always hte case the O plays well or plays poorly. Sometimes it's kind of in the middle, no? Then who wins the game? You have been trying to say it doesn't matter to the team whether Revis is on it or not. Your point fails.
I have largely avoided this thread because I figured any thread that lasts this long has to be negative and I've thought all along that any negativity toward Wilson is retarded. Then I saw the Revis bump and it confirmed my line of thinking. I'm not reading all the way through this thread, I'm just going to comment. K-Dub is playing very well right now, all things considered. He was drafted to start out in the nickel position while he learned a complicated defensive system. Instead, he's had to be a #2 opposite not Darelle Revis, but Antonio Cromartie. Now, not to take anything away from my guy Cro, but he's no Revis. So now coverage has to be spread out, leaving K-Dub on an island far more than he should have to be. And yet how many times a game do you hear his name? Mick mentioned something like 7 or 8 plays in the Miami game that Wilson was directly a part of. Henne threw the ball fourty-four times. If Wilson was doing such a poor job of coverage why did Henne only target his man less than 20% of the time? His only problem right now is getting his head turned around. He's getting some PI calls, but guess what, you actually have to be right on top of your man in order to draw a PI. His cover skills are there. His sole problem is coachable. If you take a step back and really look at his situation as a whole, rather than focus on some mental mistakes that are quite easily correctable, you'll realize the kid has been playing very well, and will be part of an amazing secondary (dare I say game-changing) when Revis is back and healthy.
