The Official Hard Knocks Thread

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    No, Palmer was almost an afterthought on that show. I think the closest thing to a leader in the context of that show was Reggie Kelly.
     
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    He came off like a complete douche to me. I wanted to throw up seeing him in a Jets uniform after being late several times. I don't care if he's on the Jets. I still hate him.
     
  3. NDmick

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    ^^^ I remember that article.

    I wish HBO edited that shit into the show.
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Isn't it funny how the Jets spent the offseason getting rid of respected leaders and now they are wondering why they have none?
     
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    I liked the episode. A few observations:

    • The cheeseburger thing became an issue because the O torched the D in the practice and Rex was pissed.

    •If Jason Taylor can't get there on time driving why don't they make him ride the bus like everybody else? Especially after the first time.

    •We got a good look at Clemens and Coles in real-life situations, I liked how both guys handled it. Clemens clearly had his agent look around before getting back to the Jets, I'm guessing nothing better or even comparable was out there. Coles understands the business, I like the fact that they're giving him a chance to get guaranteed money for the full season but he's coming back if not.
     
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    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

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    Rex, after berating the players for lack of leadership and the D for eating cheeseburgers:

    "Now let's go eat a go-damn snack!"
     
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  7. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    I'm intrigued as to how no one has truly stepped up. But I also wonder since Rex puts so much on himself thats why no one deemed it necessary to be the unquestioned leader.

    I think one emerges during the season, but this is an edited show. I just can't put too much into what's being shown and buy all of it. The McKnight crap is the main reason why.

    Jenkins and Sanchez, I think, are the two leaders on this team right now.
     
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    Yeah, I don't give a shit if he CAN get there on time. He's in his first year with a new team. He ought to be traveling with the team. I wonder if it was a veteran privilege thing for Hofstra day, but why wasn't he traveling with them for the Carolina game?
     
  9. nycztonee

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    I really can't argue with TJ seeing how quick and shifty LT looked this preseason.

    The Faneca cut does look a little bad right about now.

    Sure he's been a liability in pass blocking but is Slauson and Ducasse any better? At least Faneca has leadership in the locker room and can still run block. At the cost of saving, what was it 2.5m?
     
  10. WhiteShoeWillis

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    You can't keep declining, high priced players in this league for the sole purpose of leadership. Guys need to step up, bottom line. It's good that the CS recognizes this and is calling the team out.
     
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    Yeah.. i think Rex and co. talk about lack of leadership to motivate the leaders to take yet another step...

    Who did they really lose??? Leon - Don't think he was a great leader... TJ, I think TRich was more of the leader of that group....

    I'ts part of the process.. This team needs young guys like Sanchez and Green to be the leaders, that takes time, that also take prodding from the staff like "No one is stepping up" on HBO.

    Also comes back to REVIS... He's one of the leaders - But, when your leader holds out for everyt last $$ and can't give a #### about the TEAM while under contract, it's hard to fill that void leader and talent wise..
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Thomas Jones can still play, leon can still play, feeley can still kick, Faneca isn't what he was but he's not as bad as what we have now and in win now mode they needed to keep him.

    I was ok w/ LT(beforre he had the good preseason) though I preferred to keep Jones, I hated the Leon move but I thought they knew something we didn't, Folk has looked ok but the one move that made no sense from the beginning was Faneca. The least they could have done was wait until another LG stepped up before they got rid of him.

    Jones was the leader of the O, Faneca the leader on the OL.
     
  13. AlioTheFool

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    I love how people have taken Hard Knocks far more seriously than it should be.

    Tannenbaum isn't a douchebag, he's a manager. He's the guy we've praised for the better part of the last decade for being a cap genius. Yeah, he's looking to cut salary. You know why? It's his job and he's good at it. He isn't paid to be everyone's best friend.

    Clemens is suddenly everyone's favorite underdog? Why because he made a little speech about not wanting to be paid more than he was worth? Seriously? Is it a coincidence that his agent "just happened" to be calling at the precise moment Tanny was checking to see if he'd called yet? It's not like Clemens agreed outright to take the cut when Tanny presented it. He had a couple of days to look at other opportunities (at least two "potential" opportunities were pursued by his agent) and he came in talking about "I don't want to be paid more than I'm worth, blah, blah, blah."

    It was set up to make you feel for the guy but he had exactly zero other opportunities. You could even see it on his face when Tanny talked about how the market will dictate his salary next year. Clemens took what he could get, rather than have to ask a CFL team for a job. I like the guy and I prefer him over O'Connell, but jeez people, it wasn't a really noble act to take what he did.

    Another "coincidence" is the camera just "happening" to be in Jason Taylor's car when he arrives late repeatedly. Do people really think HBO is unaware that the Jets' fanbase was unhappy with bringing him in and are looking for excuses to justify their hatred for him?

    Notice Rex didn't say a single word about Taylor's tardiness? Wonder why that is...

    It amazes me how people really buy into this thinking that Sanchez is meek and not a leader. Again, does anyone notice that they always hit Sanchez's face when he looks upset or downtrodden? Have you ever watched a postgame press conference with him? Two completely different people. Could HBO be catching him at precise moments and only showing you the story they're choosing to? :eek:hmy:

    Come on people. Seriously.
     
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    Nice post Alio.......it's all in the editing.
     
  15. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    This should be read aloud by HBO before the show begins.
     
  16. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    From what I've read about in Arizona - Faneca and Slauson are basically the same player at this point. So why not go cheaper when Revis' deal is in the balance? And this team needs the young guys to take over, because they are going to be here for 6+ years.
     
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    From what I've read the coaching staff has been prodding Revis to be a leader for a year now. This was supposed to be his training camp/season to step in to that role. Oh well....
     
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    Maybe players (or at least vets) are allowed to go to the game on their own for home games? or maybe for preseason games they are allowed to?
     
  19. WhiteShoeWillis

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    I think the leadership is lacking on the offensive side of the ball. On defense you have Scott and Leonhard.

    Mangold and Sanchez need to step up in that regard.
     
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    During Rex's leadership speech, you could tell he was genuinely pissed off because his lower lip was shaking as if he really wanted to do something really bad.
     

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