Mcknight might not make team (per rotoworld)

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  1. Jets n Boys

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    Yeah, Ryan isn't exactly the type of coach that hides behind the curtain to save face. He's a straight up coach, which I love. If you're not good enough to make the cut, you're not gonna make it with Ryan. The only reason Gholston made the cut is because Ryan wants to give him a chance at his natural position. Expect Gholston to be cut next year if there is no progress this year. His base salaries for the next two year combined would be little over $1mil, so money would definitely not be a motivator to cut him.
     
  2. gustoonarmy

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    Yeah, in that last HK's episode, when Ryan was talking to the 2s and 3s, NO ONE was exempt , and lets face it, every great team has a solid back up core which Rex gets.
     
  3. ThunderbirdJet

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    That's right, I predicted he gets cut. He won't get cut now, nor am I a proponent of cutting him now. I think when push comes to shove, when the final cuts come, unless he shows something, I think Ryan just might cut McKnight before Woodhead or C Washington. If I'm wrong, fine. I'm just a Jets fan. Ryan and his staff know far better than I.

    Get yer draws out from yer hiney.

    BTW, any Leon comaprisons are off base. Leon never did the puking thing, never failed the fitness test, and was always coachable. McKnight in those areas from what I've seen is a fail. That doesn't mean he can't rebound, doesn't mean he is a bust, but sorry, I don't like his chances.

    WTF does my prediction mean? It don't mean shit. I hated Sanchez. I admitted just how wrong I was. What I think don't mean shit. On the other hand, I've been right as often as wrong, probably more often right than wrong. I could go through that litany, but why. I have an opinion on McKnight. I think he is going to be a bust. He hasn't shown me anything to make me believe. Like Gholston.

    Rex tries to talk up his marginal performers, in the hope they respond. That is how I see McKnight. BTW, a rook doesn't have to misbehave to get the hog tie hazing. Sometimes it's the best of the rookies that get that. My comment about it was tongue in cheek. Relax. Hope I'm wrong.
     
  4. maynardsmyhero-uk

    maynardsmyhero-uk Well-Known Member

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    I know this has been mentioned a lot but people have a hell of a short memory ref a previous 4th round pick who struggled in TC..... what was his name ....Leon...
     
  5. ThunderbirdJet

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    Ah... Leon. I was a big time fan and proponent of Leon. Again, Leon did not have near the issues McKnight has had already. Leon was coachable. People here did not like Leon, but I did, like I liked Pouha, when 99% of this board were screaming about what a bust he was. Damned good thing we had him last year. I engaged in debate after arguement with Pouha. I have also defended Bob Sutton time and again.

    I think McKnight looks like a bust. Red flags all over the place, something that wasn't there with Leon. Leon's rap was not enough touches in college, too small. That was it. He steadilly improved. Maybe McKnight can too, but I have my doubts.

    Oh, and by the way.... no I don't run the Jets, I'm not qualified and neither is anyone else here, even though some seem to think they could. We collectively don't know shit. So fuckin relax. It's a Jets fan message board. Keep this shit in some modicum of perspective.
     
  6. Footballgod214

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    i think rex is ging to try rotating him in at defensive end
     
  7. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    They won't add another RB as insurance for McKnight. I don't see the team carrying six RBs on the active roster unless one of them can also be used at another position such as Woodhead at WR.
     
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    I heard after he was drafted that the dude is a pot head, loves smoking the Ganja.
     
  9. Don

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    Yeah, but that isn't how the Jets operate..see Gholston..now he REALLY can't play.
     
  10. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    There is a big difference between Gholston and McKnight. It is far easier to cut the latter due to salary cap reasons. I hate Gholston as much as any player the Jets have ever had and was disgusted when they drafted him, but they drafted him high in the 1st round and there is a price to pay for that literally and figuratively. If he blows again this year, then he'll be gone.
     
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    I don't think I've seen this posted yet, but if he needs time to become a little more polished and ballsy, can't the team just assign him to the practice squad. Someone else mentioned it, I'd like to see C. Washington get some run. Our season certainly doesn't make or break because of McKnight. I'd say if we're depending on McKnight for anything significant this year, that means we're in trouble.
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Yeah, I understand that is why he wasn't gone last year but this year he would have no effect on the cap at all. I still think that might happen before the season starts though. We will see how he does in the next three games.
     
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    I'm glad to see you've toned down your proclamations. That's all I was after. I'm tired of everyone proclaiming him an utter failure based on limited information. I'm sure when he does show something, you'll insist that he had a huge turnaround, that he suddenly found his desire and his attitude changed. I still don't get why people think we know anything about his attitude and desire.

    We've seen 5 minutes on the guy, and that has led to a slew of negative articles. Rex's comments have been hopeful, frequently stating that he's trying TOO hard, but that must just be posturing, right?

    Right. I'm sorry that I'm not getting all hyped up to jump on this kid before he's really had a chance. Clearly, I'm the one with the problem.

    Fair enough, but then the Gholston comparisons are completely unfair as well. You're comparing McKnight after 2 weeks to a guy who has had more than 2 years to show something.

    As far as Leon, how do you know he was always coachable? We heard grumblings that they were unhappy with him early in camp in 2006. The team went after Lee Suggs and then Kevan Barlow because of problems. We don't know what those problems specifically were because media scrutiny wasn't NEARLY as high for that team as it is for this one. Those little problems were corrected and Leon turned into a great back for us. Any little problems we see out of McKnight are blown into serious red flags. Heaven forbid Rex should downplay the significance of failing a fitness test that he had passed easily a week before. He's clearly posturing.

    As far as the coachability, please find me a quote from a coach that says that. I haven't seen it. What I have seen is that he went out of his way to attach himself to Tomlinson in order to learn what he can do better. (http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/08/19/mcknight-picks-tomlinsons-brain/) That hardly sounds like someone who doesn't want to learn. Out of all of training camp, of course there are going to be moments like the one we saw on Hard Knocks. Making broad extrapolations from those just makes you Rich Cimini.

    Again, the Gholston comparisons are much more out of line than the Leon ones. As far as McKnight, I'm sorry he hasn't shown you anything in 1 preseason game. I'm sure he'll get right on that.
     
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    The team can't assign him to the PS unless he clears waivers, which he won't. If he were to get cut, he'd be scooped up by another team.
     
  15. guinness77

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    Ah, ok. got it.
    Like I said previously, if we're depending on McKnight for a lot, which any rational person shouldn't expect, it probably means we've had some injuries and we're in a bit of trouble. Either way, to compare McKnight to Gholston or Greene (for that matter) is not fair.
     
  16. ukilledkenny

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    Shonn Greene was a bust at this time last year too...
     
  17. Miamipuck

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    No he wasn't he ran 12 times for 200 yards his first preseason game. He never got hurt and was looked upon as the next Earl Campbell. He wasn't a complete bust like this McKnight kid.
     
  18. bloke911

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    I was on a reality TV show and I can tell you they edit the film to however they want to tell their story. They don't care about the people, they care about the viewers and viewers want drama! They edit these shows so heavily, don't believe anything that's reality TV. It's not reality.

    McKnight will be fine, sure he's having problems but he's not a north-south runner like Greene or a pro like LT. He's going to take some time to get the offense down and I'm sure this is where the pressures of Hard Knocks are not helping us.

    Let's talk again in a few weeks and see how he does when he gets some work with the ones.
     
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    I heard Sanchez may not make the team either. Toats.
     
  20. iceman

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    I've seen many USC games and was never impressed with McKnight. I didn't like the pick at all. He lacks instincts and goes down easily if someone puts a finger on him. I won't be surprised if he is cut.
     
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