As far as I know, Rex Ryan once stated that a 'zone cover corner' isn't a legit NFL CB. Which was a ridiculous thing to say, but, w/e
Zone cover corners react and man cover corners redirect. Man cover corners are the grease that makes the wheel of Rex's defense turn. Of course he hates zone corners. They can't play in his defense.
I'm not taking anything away from your d or anything, but we got rid of JT for a reason. The guy is 35 years old and wasn't that productive last year. I am however happy that we disposed of him though. Last time the Dolphins had a season without JT on the team, while still playing in the league..... we went 11-5 and advanced to the playoffs.
as far as I know, it was a joke considering he loves man to man corners because of the scheme he runs.
And how would you know? For all I know the first time you heard it was by reading my sig. He said it in a press conference after an OTA when he was talking about how good Kyle Wilson was progressing in press coverage. And why the fuck does it matter anyway?
Ok first off, what he meant by that is if you can't play man, you can't play in this scheme. Period. Which is all I need to know about Cro. He's here, therefore he can play man. Second, Revis is a freak of nature. He sits on the #1 all game. NOBODY else in this scheme does that. Over the course of a whole Jets-Pats game Welker will get covered in man by Cro, by Wilson, he'll be doubled, and we'll play some zone. Cro, or anyone else for that matter, isn't going to just sit on the #2 the whole game. If you're Brandon Marshall, you know who's covering you on the next play. If you're anyone else, you don't have a friggin clue.
:rofl: Well as much fun as the "Bring a Knife to a Gunfight Home Edition" game has been I think I'm done for now.
Aw come on, man. I wanted to see your expert psychoanalysis on Rex Ryan's mental state at the time of the press conference.
I think the fact that they weren't particularly dominant on defense means there's still a lot of room for improvement. The regression to the mean likely has a lot to do with teams studying film. If Rex continues to morph the defense, and I strongly believe he will, he could avoid that pitfall. A better case study on defensive performance regression would be on Rex Ryan defenses IMO. He's had a number of years towards or at the top so I think that's a more legit comparison. I don't have time to look at the numbers right now though.
Lol, so I state something obvious about Cromartie and how he has not been focused on football, and now everybody is punning me asking for "psychoanalysis" of others.
The title "best of all time" drew the rival teams posters here like ants to a picnic. It is interesting hearing their comments but it's terribly hard to agrue the OP's case as a Jets fan because this squad has done nothing to indicate they are one of the best defenses of all time. I'll take one of the better defenses in the league thank you. Couple that with an offense that should be able to grind out possession time to limit the opposing team from seeing the field and you get a pretty good recipe for success. Are there any valid arguments as to why this defense will not do well? Besides injuries of course.
It tough to find them. If the DL gets beaten off the line consistently, then there will be problems. Screen passes worked extremely well on the defense last season, that can still be an issue. It would be a perfect defense if this team had a truly dominant Safety and a nasty, mean front 3. But its beyond rare for a team to have so many great players up and down the defense. This defense is built backwards for more than one reason. One is to combat the pass crazy NFL. The other, is for this offense to get the lead first. With the Jets having the lead, the opposing team has to pass. That's what this defense wants. They want a QB with a clock in his head, having no idea where the pressure is coming from, trying to do too much. That's how you get the game ending turnover where the offense can run out the clock or take a knee. The only real problem with this team is being unsure if the offense can be just as nasty as the defense. We all know the defense is going to do well, top 5 for sure. But can the offense crack the top 10. It means Sanchez has to win a game without the help of the running game, because teams are going to give their best against the Jets and make it very tough for them to beat them. We'd all be absolutely sure this team is destined for the Super Bowl if there were no contract issues.
I would think anyone considering that this defense has the POTENTIAL to be an all time great looks at two things only. 1. The Jets had the best defense, stats wise, in the NFL without a pass rush. Thats pretty crazy. Even blitzing corners and safetys, the Jets had the best pass defense in the NFL. Pretty amazing. The problem with that is on a few occasions, late in games...or against a great qb, it caught up with them. Thats why you get people making an argument that it was done with mirrors..and its a valid argument. The Jets have done several things to increase pressure from the front 7. Getting Jenkins back, Taylor etc. If the Jets get much better pressure from that area...yeah...it could be scary. 2. They MIGHT have eliminated their "hole". They had a hole on the other side of Revis. If Cromartie is at 80% of where he was in 07 and Wilson becomes a very good nickel...then again...scary. If those two things happen...bingo. This thread is very legit. Still too early to tell...but its not like a bunch of things need to happen....just a couple.
Before injuries to our DB rotation and running game, payton manning was getting KILLED in the AFCCG, so all this talk about the #1 defense getting destroyed by the #1 offense is bullshit. Ask peyton if he'd want to play us again assuming no one gets injured. I guarantee his says "fuck no". And now add Crom and Wilson to our backfiled and peyton's days of getting lucky with injuries is over.
Staffjet22: You used regression-to-the-mean and luck as the basis for assuming we regress. Regression to the mean is valid only if successive events are not a function of each other, like flipping a coin. You can flip heads 10 times in a row, but eventually it all evens out. Problem with your argument is that the Jets' 2009/2010 defenses are STRONGLY related to each other. We're actually flipping a weighted coin that we made heavier! I agree the 'luck' portion of your argument makes sense. No team can get lucky all the time. We had a lot of luck last year. Bad luck (leon, jenks, and injuries in the AFCCG come to mind). In the end, Milo said it best: This isn't even just about additions either. This is about year 2 of a system, and a rediculously complicated system at that. To be #1 in a brand-new scheme is almost unheard of, but we did it anyway. Last year this was Rex Ryan's D. Now it's the Jets D.
come on man. The colts had recievers running open the entire first half of that game and Peyton missed some throws he would normally make. Eventually he figured something out and had perfect protection on almost every play and started to easily shred the defense. The defense may not have gotten "killed" but the Colts had their number.
