"Stafford is a more gifted passer than Sanchez"- Ross Tucker

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  1. Rockefella

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    thiS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT SANCHEZ IS BETTER THAN HIM

    FUCKY OU YOU PIECE OF SHIT JETS J-E-TS J-E-T-S J-E-T-S
     
  2. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    lol calm down dude

    On 11/7/2010 we shall find out who is the better passer...Jets are playing @ the Lions
     
  3. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    im with this guy!

    sanchez may only have an above average arm when throwing a 17 yrd out but he does a lot of other things really well. great footwork, great touch, great deep ball, quick release

    the problems i saw from him last year were that he stared down receivers and didnt protect the ball with two hands in the pocket. i think those are two things that can be improved upon with experience

    i only watched one lions game so i cant tell you much about stafford, but i think sanchez has the tools to be elite
     
  4. Vorrecht

    Vorrecht Active Member

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    Yeah if Sanchez does better against their D than Stafford does against ours, Sanchez is definitely the better QB.
     
  5. supersonic

    supersonic Well-Known Member

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    I always thought that Marino's elite ability was a determent to the Dolphins as a whole. It was always about putting it Marino's hands and I think they lost the team concept along the way. Having a supertalented player can cut that way sometimes. At least it did for the dolphags.

    Kind of similar with Elway too until Shanahan came around.
     
  6. ihatethedolphins3

    ihatethedolphins3 New Member

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    i think stafford has more natural talent, but i belive sanchez has better mechanics and better intangibles
     
  7. Geason Noceur

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    I have to disagree with some of these statements. How is Sanchez more accurate? Stafford threw an INT every 19 attempts this past season. Sanchez threw an INT every 18 attempts. And how is Sanchez quicker and with better mobility? Stafford is faster than Sanchez. Check the combine numbers. Also, they rushed for about the same number of yards, TDs and had similar sack numbers despite Stafford playing behind a sieve O-line.

    Stafford was 11-4 against ranked teams in college. Two of those losses were against the eventual national champion, another against a ranked Alabama and the fourth one against Georgia Tech in which he threw 5 TDs and over 400 yards. Won all three of his bowl games in college and was MVP of two of those. He led Georgia to an 11-2 record his sophomore season and a #2 national ranking. How's that not winning big games? Lots of excellent NFL QBs never led their college team to the big game.

    And I think we saw last year that despite playing in a crappy team, Stafford is clearly not gun shy despite throwing the ball 38 times per game and getting pummeled into the turf every week.
     
  8. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    Some offenses don't really suffer if you take away their #1 WR. The Saints, for example, run such a dynamic spread offense that I really don't think they are going to cry if you take away Colston; they'll be too busy throwing to Shockey, Henderson, Meachem, Bush et al. The Ravens last year probably couldn't care less if you took Derrick Mason out of the game, they're going to throw to Heap or (most likely) Rice anyway. Every team will attempt a pass and fear an elite pass-rusher, not every team has a great #1 WR that they rely on.
     
  9. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    The Saints offense scored 10 points against the Jets last year.
     
  10. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    Sorry, but that article is awful. All his viewpoints are way off base from reality.

    As far as stafford having a better arm and build for the position? Definitely. But he's not that accurate. Stafford showed he has toughness in him and can be a very good quarterback. Honestly seeing him at GA every year (me being a gator) i thought he wasn't going to be very good. I saw him look lost and scared at times and throw a lot of wobbly ass passes. I didn't think he had the mental toughness, but he's proved he can be a good quarterback in this league with more time and a better line and someone to throw to besides Megatron.

    Sanchez is more accurate, and I think a smarter quarterback overall. His pocket awareness is also better and i think he throws better on the run, even though stafford can be pretty mobile at times.

    The Jared allen/revis thing is absolutely retarded though. An elite pass rusher can cause havoc, but a corner as good as revis takes the best offensive player (usually) completely out of the game. You can take a good pass rusher out of the game by certain pass protection schemes and intermediate routes to get the ball out quicker.
     
  11. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    from a fan's perspective, a dynamic pass rusher is FAR more fun to watch than a lock down corner.

    by definition, a lock down corner means 'not much happening over here, might as well go home'

    but watching a sapp or white or strahan or gastineau or allen or abraham/ellis KILL the QB is special.

    gotta go with the QB killer
     
  12. kinghenry89

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    Anyone who believes that Sanchez is a more gifted passer than Stafford needs to take off their green glasses for a second. Stafford can literally make any throw, and he's got every tool that a QB needs to succeed. There's a reason that he was the #1 overall pick and Sanchez wasn't.

    That doesn't mean that he'll ultimately be a better player than Sanchez is, but on a pure skill level I don't think that there's much question that he's better.
     
  13. Johnny4

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    Tucker loves tweaking Jet fans. He does it all the time on Sirius NFL Radio. Sanchez has a ton of detractors outside of NY. Part of it is justified, because even we can't say what type of player he is going to be(my prediction is a much better Jeff Garcia, which I would take). In the same vein, for him to say that Sanchez is going to need to be carried by the running game his whole career is just dumb. There are just 3 Qb's in the league that have proven they can win without a running game. They are Peyton Manning, Brady and McNabb. All 3 will be in the HOF.
     
  14. Br4d

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    Stafford was well under 60% completion percentage for his career at GA. His senior peak season was just 61.4% completions. That's an abnormally low completion percentage at the college level for a "gifted" passer.

    He may well work out in the NFL but the odds on him being a great passer are basically close to zero. Completing passes at a high rate is one of the requirements to be a great passer.

    We have a lot less evidence to go on with Sanchez, and his 65.8% completion percentage in his one full season as a formerly red shirted junior is not enough evidence to suggest that he will be able to complete passes in the pros at a high enough level to be considered a top flight passer. He does however have an opportunity to get there.

    You can make an argument that Sanchez is still a pure coin flip as to whether he'll work out. Stafford on the other hand has given us no reason to date to think he'll be able to do what an NFL QB has to do to succeed.
     
  15. DisgruntledLionFan

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    The odds of Sanchez succeeding are indeed better, and no not a coin flip to virtually nil, but that has nothing to do with college completion percentage. It's simply the current state of their respective franchises. Your talking about rookie QBs who landed on teams on opposite ends of the spectrum and who were asked to do completely different things.

    Simply stated: They both have a lot of work to do to become competent NFL QBs.
     
  16. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    In his defense, stafford wasnt a senior, he was a true junior ... And mcnabb has rarely completed passes at a high rate and he's still an excellent qb
     
  17. PinPointPenning10

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    I think the second statement was more off line; the Jets D dominated last year because of Revis, even without any pass-rusher. Revis alone decreased the need for a pass-rush and forced teams to run when they normally might've passed.
     
  18. Kentucky Jet

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    PLEASE! Our DEFENSE is head and shoulders better then the LIONS defense. We have two lockdown CBs and a pass rusher in JT. We can stop the run and put pressure in the middle and disrupt the QBs timing. They are a young, up and coming team though. Still to make a statement like you made is a bit over the top. Lets not take anything away from Stafford. he is a tough QB and will be a very good one. Sanchez will be an excellent QB and a winner. He is with a vastly superior team. Stafford could win with us too! Lets be fair to these young guys!
     
  19. 624

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    I agree our defense is way better than the Lions but don't use "we have a pass rusher in JT" as an argument.
     
  20. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Yeah, and Brees completed only 60.5 percent of his passes as a senior. I take it you were not very impressed with Brees about a decade ago.
     

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