wasnt bad, we played well, good draft picks, helped us out while being on the browns, he just took that patriot gag rule bs a lil to far.
I don't like his coaching style of insane strictness, but I don't think he is necessarily a bad coach. He seems really smart and I really think that he wanted to sit Favre, but wasn't allowed to. That forced us to go 9-7 and miss the playoffs and ultimately caused his firing, probably a little unfairly. Either way I'm happy we have Rex now and hope he does well in Cleveland as long as it doesn't interfere with our success.
I love those people who give him 100% of the blame for Gholston and no credit for Revis, Harris etc. Unreal. He also had two winning seasons for us. Yeah we collapsed at the end of 2008 but he also was the reason we were in position for a playoff run
I give him credit for helping to build a talented young core, and I think he's a very smart football guy. He isn't a people person though, and that's a big part of being a coach. I'm not saying players had to really love him like they do Rex, but you have to have the skill of being able to communicate with players to get the best of them. I think he knows a lot about x's and o's but fails to make key strategic adjustments on game day.
:rofl: Mangini has the tools - I'm just not sure that he learned the lesson he needed to from his time hear. Some of the stories out of Cleveland last season seem to show that he has no problem getting his players to hate him - but hate without respect is the wrong side of the pendulum for an NFL coach.
I'll always appreciate him for building a very solid roster filled with smart, hard-working players with generally very good character. Although I always thought he got unfairly treated in the media and on this board (I've had plenty of wars with people on this board about it), he definately had his shortcommings. I still think he has the potential to develop into a great head coach, so I believe that his legacy is largely incomplete to this very day.
These to me are the two key issues with him, and I saw little evidence last year that he has addressed them at all. At some point if he doesn't, he'll stop getting chances to do so.
I could never stand mangini and all my psychotic previos post support that. but I look at mangini as a kotite figure,(becasue of kotite we got parcells) if it wasnt for his awful bullshit, Rex would have never been hired and the team would have never drafted Sanchez. So thanks to his stupidity were looking like we truly have a bright bright future. So for that im thankfull for that schmuck.
I think the issue that I have with Mangini is that he just did not fit the Jets. In a media hub like New York with a traditionally more blue collar fan base like the Jets the coach has to be commanding and relatable like you see in Rex Ryan. Rex Ryan commands people by his bravado and swagger, sparing pleasantries which allows him to appease both New York area fans and media. Mangini had the personality of Bill Bellicheck with none of the head coaching credentials. Bellicheck can get away with awkwardness, post loss hissy fits and dressing like a "To Catch a Predator" arrestee because he has the head coaching credentials and has a media in Boston that could not criticize him if they tried their hardest. Mangini, despite being labeled as a "cerebral" coach often just appeared awkward and unrelatable to fans, the media, and towards the end of his tenure even the players. I think he has a good football mind and could be a good coordinator or other assistant coach but he does not have the skills to lead an entire team. Someone else mentioned his abnormally strict rules, (Fining a player last year 1,701 dollars for forgetting to pay for a $3 bottled water out of a hotel mini bar) and while discipline is important the extent that he takes it proves that he can not motivate a team to stay on point by himself and instead has to be overly strict to prove he has any sort of control. I don't hate the guy but he is a classic example of how a good coordinator does NOT necessarily equal a good coach.
I hated the top secret service, hush hush approach he brought to the Jets and that everything was a "process". He was a X and Os guy but his lack of leadership and people skills, unlikable personality, stubborn ways, and disturbing obession of patterning himself like a BB clone were his downfall. I believe Mangini is at his last head coaching job with the Browns. Once he is fired he will be a career DC or defensive positions coach. Nothing wrong with that but he is not made to be a HC because first and foremost, you have to be a leader. You can have all the X and Os knowledge in the world but if you don't got leadership, you don't got shit.
