Jets Colts Coint Toss Take/Defer ?

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Take the Ball or Defer ?

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  1. colts fan

    colts fan New Member

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    I think the pressure would be on Sanchise to begin the game due to the importance of field position and not knowing what to expect as a rookie QB. If the Colts get the ball and don't score, Sanchise may feel less pressure because it's not necessary to score on this drive. But if he gets the ball to begin then possibly he hasn't settled in with the importance of the game...(I would assume it's like giving your first presentation to an audience of 70,000 people).

    I see Sanchise as easily excitable and he makes bad choices when it is called on him to be an average QB.
     
  2. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    i used to hate seeing our deferring but ive grown to like it. Keeping the game close and getting the ball in the second half first always seems to be big for us since our O takes a little bit to warm up.
     
  3. colts fan

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    The problem with your theory is that your teams offense hasn't looked prolific all year...

    If your team is consistent, there is a great chance you will punt on your first few drives. If your team gives Peyton the ball 3 times in the first quarter, he is going to put up at least 7 points and your defense will be tired down by then. The rest of the game will not look good after that point.

    The Chargers had their way with your team in the first half, silly penalties and bad snaps messed thier drives up. Rivers is a good QB in my opinion, but he never had to play an attacking defense, the defense that was used on Rivers destroyed Peyton early in his career when the Pats did it to him all the time. Finally, Peyton adjusted and now it is not nearly as effective and this is why the Pats changed their philosophy from attacking 3-4 with moving parts to an explosive offense. Yes, because of Peyton and the Colts...
     
  4. Docny1975

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    If we were home I'd maybe consider the surprise onside kick to start but no way on the road
     
  5. tanknyc

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    Defer and see what we could do on Defense and then 2nd half we get the ball... it would suck to be down then they get the ball 2nd half
     
  6. WhiteShoeWillis

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    He just played two road playoff games where we went down 7-0. Schotty has done a good job sticking with the run and not putting too much pressure on Sanchez. I'm not sure why going down 7-0 in this game would be any different. It's not as if your defense is a great one.

    Going down 7-0 would not take us out of our game plan at all.
     
  7. Chrisp22

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    You obviously have seen the Jets this season. The last few games they have come out running, keeping Sanchez to a few short throws if necessary. They go to a strength and don't allow Sanchez to get crazy with the ball. Done by design after the mid-season hiccups.

    Your excited theory probably won't hold water if they keep the same offense they have the last few games. And from the sound of things, Rex isn't going to change much.
     
  8. colts fan

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    True, but teams "always" play the Colts different...Don't forget 4th and 2 (Pats)...or going for a TD when a fg would have taken the lead (Ravens) or even pressing to score more points when you are up by 21 (Texans) or going for it on 4th down when you are on your side of the 50 (Jags).

    HC's respect the Colts O and going down by 7 to the Colts in the first means, Peyton has figured out your defense, more yards are sure to come and more than likely more points...even if it is a fg...

    Don't forget how fast Peyton drove down the field on the first possesion in the 3rd quarter and then our defense stopped you and put the ball back in the O hands and hence the Painter story...you were down 5 and it could have been worse...
     
  9. colts fan

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    Hey, I hope that you are correct... go 3 and out and 3 and out and 3 and out and get no first downs until late in the 2nd quarter... I like that game plan.
     
  10. Hobbes3259

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    GMTA..........
     
  11. Docny1975

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    Coulda woulda shoulda but didn't. Don't be mad I'd be more mad at your own organization for taking them out. Can't believe they didn't remember their mistakes of the past about loosing momentum when they rest their players. They "let" us into the playoffs now its our turn to "let" them have off for the rest of the season
     
  12. colts fan

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    What is momentum? Last I checked, The Chargers and Cowboys lost...The teams with the least amount of "momentum" won their games. Therefore, your theory lacks merit.
     
  13. Steve032

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    Defer no matter what in this game. I'm sure the Colts will do the same
     
  14. 611LWC

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    Hell as much smack as one of the Colts was talking about how fast their D is, the Colts could surprise us and defer if they win the toss. Why not, put the Rookie on the field first for the biggest game of his life, see if you can force an early mistake. If not he is going to hand the ball off three times and if they can stop they will get the ball back in 4 downs.
     
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  15. WhiteShoeWillis

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    You have some interesting points of view.

    The Pats 4th and 2 was in the 4th quarter and there defense had no answer for Manning.

    The Ravens made a series of coaching blunders last week that are pretty unexplainable.

    I don't even know the situations from the other games, but I'm willing to bet they aren't similar to a one score game in the FIRST quarter.

    You act like the Jets will have one defense they sit in all game. This will be a game of adjustments by BOTH sides. Sure, Peyton may go down and score the first drive, but you better bet your ass Rex will have an adjustment for the next drive - they will go back and forth all game. Rex isn't going to sit in one defense and let Peyton "solve it" and pick it apart.

    See my previous post. Peyton scored fairly early in our first game, and the defense switched up to slow him down for the rest of the 1st half. Then after the half when adjustments were made Peyton scored fairly quickly again. Do you not think another adjustment was coming from Rex?
     
  16. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    I like getting the ball in the 2nd half.
     
  17. fenwyr

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    I agree, and that was the only thing I struggled with in my vote. However...

    I think we are going to have alot of sucess running on the Colts early. I want to control as much of the 1st quarter as possible. I do NOT want Peyton to get the ball early. I would choose not to defer.
     
  18. colts fan

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    Thanks for such a logical post...

    I always thought changes to the defense and offense was made at half time...but these are major changes to the game plan...I am sure you may tweak something during the game on offense or defense, but major during the half...I am not sure of... Peyton allows the play selection to be determined by the defense he feels he is reading. I don't think the Colts game planned the Jets the first time they played you...Your offense and defense is a mirror image to the Ravens, but with a less capable QB.

    Baltimore played a more difficult schedule and the best offenses and defenses all season not to mention during the regular season...The played Peyton, Brady, Favre, Rivers, and Rogers...that is a tough schedule...

    If your defense doesn't throw a few wrinkles in the plan and also some strong downfield playaction passes and few rollout passes, your team may be in trouble.
     
  19. gustoonarmy

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    I vote to take the ball and get started on the D straight away. The longer they are on the field the better.
    Plus we really don't want to be playing catch up straight away, IF.
     
  20. FJF

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    take the ball in the second half.phil simms hit on it last week.it protects against peyton getting 2 straight possessions to get the score up and taking us out of the game plan
     

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