Interesting Tidbits about the Running Game

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    Just posted this in a very crowded thread, but I figured it merited some attention:

    - In games in which we carry the ball at least 30 times, we're 10 - 3. Those 3 losses:

    16 - 13 to Buffalo in the game in which Sanchez threw 5 INTs and Weatherford another.

    30 - 25 to Miami in the game in which Miami scored 3 D/ST touchdowns.

    10 - 7 to Atlanta, the late heartbreaker.

    That's a combined 11 points that those 3 losses were determined by.

    - In games in which San Diego's opponents carry the ball at least 30 times, they're 3 - 3. Given their 13 - 3 record, it seems even more clear what the recipe for success is against them.

    - I've heard a lot about how the San Diego run defense has improved as the season wore on, with the final 5 games being cited as proof and the first 5 games cited as the low point.

    In those first 5 games, the Chargers' opponents carried the ball 164 times for 705 yards and 4.3 YPC.

    In those last 5 games, the Chargers' opponents carried the ball 119 times for 585 yards and 4.9 YPC.

    This isn't a rush defense that's improved; it's a rush defense that hasn't been exploited as often since those first few weeks.

    As far as any doubts that we'll exploit it? The last time we failed to carry the ball 30 times in a game was November 22nd in our loss to the Pats. That's nearly 2 months ago.

    As we all know, we've found the recipe for success for our team, and it's not just a good recipe for success against the Chargers, it's the only one that's worked this season.
     
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    Interesting, but in the end it comes down to the players. Stats are fun but the stats going into the Superbowl 2 years ago prob had the Patsies winning by 40
     
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    I think that's a pretty great stat, now we just need near-perfect execution!
     
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    Uh, in 2007 there was no proven method of beating the Patriots because they hadn't lost. We know what has worked against the Chargers this season, and it's our game plan. It's not a determination of success, but it's an indicator that we have an excellent chance to win if we execute that gameplan well.
     
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    I understand. You also have to take into account that the 3 losses you noted were in the first 5 games of the season when SD wasn't at the level of talent they're at now. IIRC, they were missing two interior linemen that crushed their rush d and held them at #32 in the league against the run
     
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    #32 in yards per game, not in yards per carry against. Teams were more successful against them later on a per carry basis. They're STILL missing Jamal Williams, who was forced onto IR, and are on I believe their 4th NT this season. Nothing has changed in that respect or in the level of talent. If anything, it's even worse now.
     
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    Great point. Their talent level dead center in their DLine is terrible and offering no cover to their ILBs against the run. It's going to be that terrible DL unit going up against Faneca, Mangold, and Moore. This does not bode well for the Chargers.

    San Diego delenda est.
     
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    ^ What the crap? You changed your name! It's a good thing you still have that incredible avatar to identify you.
     
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    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    I'm really committing to the quote. I figured the avatar and the sig should be enough to identify me.

    San Diego delenda est.
     
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    Works for me.
     
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    Bad things happen when I listen to Charger fans. Your point makes much more sense. :)
     
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    I took it at face value at first, too, but something just didn't sit right...
     
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    It's a good stat and point, and one that you can be sure the Chargers and jets coaches are pondering.

    However, most of those YPC stats later in the season are heavily inflated in garbage time.

    In most of these games we got out to an easy lead and played the 'running clock game' to close things out.

    I wouldn't put a great deal of stock in the elevated YPC, but it does show that we obviously can be run against...but can you put together long, sustained, TD scoring drives with just running against us...no. Sanchez will have to throw, and that is when the D will exploit the Jets.
     
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    I doubt teams are running the ball in garbage time during the bolts 11 game win streak if they're behind and need to catch up. 'Guys, we're down 14 with 5 min to play, bring in the goal line unit'
     
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    Your passing D will exploit us? You're not exactly setting the world on fire in the INT department this season. Sanchez hasn't thrown an INT since the Atlanta game, and he was returning from injury that week and looked 'off'. He's done quite well on the turnover front ever since we adopted our new gameplan. Are you sure you're the team to change that?

    As far as the garbage time argument, what constituted garbage time? Instead of worrying about going through and determining where it starts, let's just look at the first half of each game. Here are the YPC in the first half only for those games:

    4.0 YPC - Cleveland

    4.4 YPC - Dallas

    5.5 YPC - Cincinnati

    7.3 YPC - Tennessee

    1.8 YPC - Washington

    That Dallas number even includes the fact that 3 of the 17 carries were from the 1 yard line for no gain. Take those out and the YPC climbs to 5.3 for the rest of the half. So, congratulations. You managed to hold most of Quinton Ganther's damage on his 3.0 YPC day to garbage time. Other than that, those numbers aren't exactly anything to boast about.
     
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    That stat can be misleading.

    an improved run defense will usually cause the other team to run less. If your behind late in games, your gonna run a lot less than if its close or your ahead.

    So by saying that the last 5 games, they're opponent just ran less, and it had nothing to do with their defense isnt entirely true


    Keep that in mind
     
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    There's no doubt that their weakness lies right where our strength is.

    I'm a little more worried about our kicking game.
     
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    I'm confident that the Jets can use their running game to control the tempo when they are on offense.

    It's when the Chargers are on offense that I am worried.
     
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    good point about stats, but unfortunately with 6 days left b/4 we play the game, smack and stats is about all we got to go on.

    That plus the headlines Joe's daughter gave us, which got us through about 4 hours :beer:
     
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    If it was, the defense protecting the lead (in this case SD) would be more likely to play off the line of scrimmage (prevent esque?) allowing for a higher YPC when they try to run. :shit:

    unless it's REX who would still blitz everytime :jets:
     

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