Can we not blame Shotty for at least one week

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  1. dstewstar

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    Mediocre receivers; you hit the nail on the head. When it comes down to it, we knew Gonzalez was going to get the ball and we still could not stop him. Why? Because he is a clutch receiver. Yes, Sanchez is a rookie and makes some critical mistakes. But if you watch some of the good throws he made our receivers did not have a lot of separation. If you do not separate from a 30th rank defensive backfield on a consistent basis a rookie QB will not be successful.

    The Jets need to revisit the receiver position. If Dustin Keller can not wake up in critical situations in a game, get someone that can. I am not talking about a good catch every now and again.

    Of course our special teams failed us in this game. But the Offense is putrid; and it is more than just Sanchez. You cannot keep putting the defense out there by scoring only 7 points.
     
  2. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Wrong. It wasn't magic that Gonzalez got the ball at the end. Ryan said it himself they knew he was going to get the ball and that they dialed up a call for it - the defense didn't execute - the Falcons offense did.
     
  3. dstewstar

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    That is my point. It is called clutch receiver play. Name any good receiver in the league...Of course the other team knows you are going to get the ball.....you get open regardless. Atlanta has a go-to clutch receiver who gets open at a critical time in the game (that is why they got Gonzalez in free agency).
     
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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    Clutch receiver play is different than bad defense. That play was an example of bad defense.
     
  5. dstewstar

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    Alright. Well, T. Gonzalez, R. Wayne, A. Gates, B. Marshall, and so on....must be facing bad defenses every week.
     
  6. FlashGordon

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    But we are throwing picks. Way too many. That's kind of my point.
    And somewhat inefficient??? If that were the case, we wouldn't even be discussing this stuff. We're up to 20 picks (I won't count Weatherford's), 28 sacks, and I'm not sure how many times Sanchez has had the ball stripped. Combine those with a 54 percent completion rate, and we have a terribly inefficient passing game.
     
  7. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    What the hell are you talking about? The defense was outstanding - they blew it on that one play. Unfortunately it was the worst possible play to come up short.
     
  8. Steve032

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    I think our offensive problems are a combination of Sanchez's horrible decision making and a little bit of Schotty's game plan. Mark needs to improve, and that can't all be blamed on Schotty. He throws picks because he makes poor decisions and throws to receivers that are not open
     
  9. dstewstar

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    OK, bash the only solid unit we have on this team. You have your opinions, I have mine. Hopefully, we will upgrade the receiver position and get better at the QB position.
     
  10. Zach

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    Fail. 0/10

    The defense held the opposing O to 3 points on the offense's turnover, then simply kept giving the offense good - if not great - field position all game. This offense had 33 plays in the opponent's territory - and scored nada. Are you telling me it's the offense players' fault and not Schottenheimer's? Are you fucking stupid or something?

    I will lay it down for you.

    Brian Schottenheimer fucking sucks. Period.
     
  11. Acad23

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    The scoreboard don't lie.

    In this game, at this point in the season, playing for a playoff spot, to only score 7 pts. against a shit lousy defense (Falcons rank last in third-down defense, 29th in total defense and 31st in yards allowed per play) is just unbelievable. Three straight quarters of play with ZERO points. At home no less.

    Blame whomever you want. There's plenty to go around.
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Oh, did Schottenheimer not call the 24 runs up the middle against a 8 and 9 man front? Who was it?
     
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    If we make 2 out of 3, we win; it's pretty simple.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The offense has been fine all season, we've had some ups and downs w/ a rookie QB but overall it's been fine. The offense put us in postiion to score alot more than we did, we botched not one, not two but THREE FGA's- that's why we lost.
     
  15. AlioTheFool

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    Bingo. I'd give you and others expressing the same thing a prize, but it seems silly to reward stating the obvious.

    How stupid are some people? Sanchez made some bad decisions that led to picks. Jay Feely shanked two kicks, and Kellen Clemens couldn't do the one job the team still felt he was qualified for.

    Yet I see people pointing fingers at Schottenheimer and the defense?! Really? This is why God hates Jets fans.

    The only complaints I have regarding Schottenheimer is that he needs to learn to have Sanchez throw high-percentage passes on 1st down, and they need to run more than one play-action per game.

    Otherwise, it's pretty hard to argue with the playcalling of a guy who put his team in position to miss scoring nine points.
     
  16. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Field goals? Is that what we're after?

    No wonder we suck. We set the bar too low.
     
  17. Turnbub

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    3rd and goal from the 2, and it was a LONG 2 yards, Schotty brings in the goaline package, no WR's and then runs off tackle to the right and T. jones gets stuffed for a half yard loss. Who in their right mind thinks that would work for 2 plus yards!??

    Sanchez + bad decisions + schotty playcalling = pathetic offense
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    That was an awful decision, you bring in the jumbo when it's less than a yard. We should have spread them out and run if we were going to run BUt we still need to make the FG there and if we do we are likely winning that game.
     

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