So Miami is going to go to Post Season, according to Carucci

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  1. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    the Jets use it 3 times a game, and now with Rex putting his fist in the balls of our retarded OC, they stopped.

    I'm a fan of a Qb beating a defense. Not him sitting on the sidelines watching 2 RBs win the game for him.

    If the jets did it as much as you guys did, I might be the only poster on here with an extreme problem with it.
     
  2. FinNasty

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    Well, it was a scheme to best utilize our personnel. Thats why I dont understand why its hard to respect. Its was a scheme to maximize the talents of the players on the team. Isnt that what good coaching is? To get the most out of its players?

    Now that Ronnie's hurt, we havent run the WC near as much... b/c now its not the best way to utilize our available players.

    Now that we seem to have a QB that can beat a defense, expect to see the WC being used less and less. I expect it to return to just a goaline/short-yardage running formation.
     
  3. MadBacker Prime

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    The latter of the two games did not earn respect, your offense piled up 104 yards. ST bullshit lost us that game.

    As a team though I definitely respect the Phins, and to be honest it's great seeing the Pats lose. As NDMICK said I liked seeing you guys use more of Henne, he seems to be the real deal.

    That said I still like our chances to make the playoffs. I can't see the Phins winning out when Buffalo stomped you like they did. I know we lost in OT after a 5 INT game by Mark. That just shows how good our defense is.

    After this week and clearer picture will develop, even if you beat the Jags, you aren't running the table against the Titans, Texans, or the Steelers.
     
  4. Coach K

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    the funny part is we shit the bed in at least 2 games if we win at least one of them this is all a pretty moot point.

    if anything its the BUF and 1 of the MIA losses that came back to haunt us.

    ill be happy to see us finish with 9 or 10 wins. then ill worry about the rest. were still crossing fingers for JAX to lose 2 games which doesnt appear that possible, even worse one of those possible losses would have the chance of being a W for MIA.

    long term though, id say were in damn good shape. the rest is up to restoring depth in the trenches and developing sanchez.

    on paper MIA should go 2-2 in this last stretch but theyre playing alot more consistent recently. so we'll see
     
  5. FinNasty

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    Well, isnt the ST's thing coaching? I mean, our ST's coach noticed a tendency in your coverage scheme, where you tended to overload one side. We knew if we could get to the back side of that coverage, that there would be an opportunity for a big play. And sure enough, we got one.


    But then after that... you kicked to him AGAIN. And overloaded one side AGAIN. Thats on the coaching. Nothing bullshit about it.


    Also, keep in mind that our total offense numbers are deceiving. Our offense didnt have the ball for an entire quarter, not b/c of your defense or b/c your offense kept ours off the field. Our offense was kept off the field b/c we returned 2 kicks that would have been offensive possessions... as well as returned a defensive TD that would also have turned into another offensive possession. So, take those totals with some grain of salt b/c of that...


    Also, Buffalo didnt "stomp" us. The final score is very deceiving if you didnt actually watch the game. The game was tied with 3min left. It was a very close game...
     
  6. Coach K

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    not really, what went wrong on the first play was we overloaded the middle which is why he tapdanced and took it outside.

    after the first return Westhoff (st coach) took them aside and re-iterated to force him outside again, and stressed outside containment to 4 players. it was on TV him holding the diagram up and everything.

    when it came time to execute the players shit the bed they flooded middle again and the outside containment overpursued and tried to shoot inside instead of letting Ginn cut outside to them and thats how that happened.

    it was the players, not the coaching. either way you won. i think he was debating with someone how your offense couldnt generate shit on us after you moved the chains at will in MIA on MNF.
     
  7. TurkJetFan

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    i honestly don't even think they're a year away...if LW and Jenkins werent out for the year the jets are 8 - 4 right now.
     
  8. FinNasty

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    And what are the Phins with Ronnie, Ferguson, and Will Allen? We lost our #1 RB, NT, and #1 CB. Also have missed our Center for a few weeks that was playing at a Pro Bowl level before he got hurt.

    We've all had our injuries...
     
  9. TurkJetFan

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    agreed...but these two players outweigh the loss of what other players you may have lost....they are 2 centerpieces on each side of the ball....

    ferguson? please....ronnie, sure but you have a very capable back to take his place. will allen? hes not on the level of LW and KJ.

    and your center can be made up for with all the wildcat shit you run....its all misdirection to the outside typically and is centered on catching the defense off guard
     
  10. AbdulSalam

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    Everybody has injuries. Its December. Win or go home.
     
  11. FinNasty

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    Well, again our offense would have produced more if we had not limited the number of our own offensive possessions w/ our kick and defensive returns....
     
  12. FinNasty

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    The loss of Jenkins was huge for you, no doubt about it. You'll never hear me hate on that guy. Dude is a stud...

    But I think you are overrating Washington. Hes a nice player, and a good asset to your team... but he wasnt the best player or "centerpiece" of your offense. TJ > LW. And a #1 CB isnt on the same level as him? Come on. We are going from WAllen to a rookie. Now, our rookie CBs have played pretty well for rookies... but like all rookies, they've taken some lumps, including giving up some big plays that Will Allen wouldnt have given up...

    And of all people, I would think you guys would understand what the loss of a NT means to your defense. Sure, Ferguson isnt on the same level as Jenkins... but w/o Ferguson, we dont have a starting caliber NT. And without one... the 3-4 defense is royally fucked. I would think you would understand that...

    And the loss of our center cant be made up for with the Wildcat.... b/c we lost Ronnie. When we lost Ronnie, we lost the Wildcat.

    And just b/c Ricky is a talented back, he alone doesnt make up for the loss of Ronnie. Not even close. We had to rewrite half our offensive playbook when we lost Ronnie, lol. And Ricky, at 32, just cant handle the workload that him and Ronnie were both handling. Ricky can still carry that same amount as he was before, and maybe a little more now... but we are still missing a massive portion of our running attack.
     
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    I don't see how he can say Mark Sanchez doesn't have enough experience to lead a successful stretch drive, but he completely blows off the fact that Henne wasn't even a starter at the beginning of the season, having less game experience than Sanchito
     
  14. NDmick

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    I know you guys were doing it to make the best of your talent.

    But I personally hate the formation. I'm a QB lover... minus Tom Brady. Tons of players have kids, this fucker gets national coverage. Granted its also because of his supermodel wife, but its still totally stupid.
     
  15. slimjasi

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    If Miami had an easier schedule, I would really like their chances, but the fact of the matter is, they have a brutal schedule and will almost definately lose a game down the stretch. I still think the Pats win the division because they clearly have the easiest schedule remaining and I see them winning at least 3 of their last 4. We'll see. Anything can happen.
     
  16. The Dark Knight

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    Losing to Miami twice, Buffalo in OT, and Jacksonville keeps becoming more and more depressing.
     
  17. Milliner is your Mommy

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    NE isnt unraveling they have had some bad fortune. A 2007 team wouldnt have let this bad fortion cost them a game but they are clearly not as good as they used to be. They should of beat the colts and came down to the wire on the road against the phins. If you think the pats have anything less then a 90% chance to win the division your crazy. They certainly tore our mediocre asses a new one in foxboro a few weeks ago.
     
  18. BadgerOnLSD

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    What the hell?
     
  19. NDmick

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    get over it. The Jets aren't the only team that has had bad losses like that. Its the NFL.
     
  20. NDmick

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    hedging his bets
     

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