Someone needs to make clear to the GM that we're tired of him feathering his resume and reputation with high-profile trades that send bucket loads of hard-earned draft picks for 1 or 2 big name players. This team needs a new left-side to its offensive line. Ferguson is servicable most of the time but he's a turnstile when we can least afford it. Faneca is a part-time playerand he's friggin old. Tannenbaum needs to replace these two stiffs who are supposed to be protecting his "Star QB"s blind side before Sanchez ends up on the IR or worse. More importantly, the Jets need to get 3 players for the defensive line. A young heir apparent/backup at DT, and impact players at DE. Sean Ellis awoke from a slumber today to have a productive game, but he's still too inconsistent and invisible and he's old. The 6th player we need is a replacement for Rhodes. We need a true ballhawk who gets to the scene of the crime before the crime occurs. Tannebaum: We earn these draft picks with our blood sweat and tears sitting through miserable season after season, or collapse after collapse. THis year, we get both...a collapse followed by 6 more unwatchable meaningless games. Don't you fucking dare trade another one of OUR PICKS unless you're getting 2 in return. It's time you took the time to build the franchise correctly. USE your scouting team to actually find productive players in later rounds. Stop drafting like a fantasy leaguer. And it's time you found us a Hall of Fame caliber player. Just one. Get us somebody that is a lock for Canton from year one. We're still waiting. You've had more than 10 years and you haven't gotten the job done.
QFT! Revis should be going to Canton. Tanny isn't the problem. He's made smart moves in the draft and picked up the players they've targetted even if it's cost them other draft picks, and a lot of these have become solid talent for us.
Hall of Fame, cmon guys its tough. Revis is a possibility though. Mangold, eh, idk about hall of fame although it is certainly possible.
Tannenbaum is trying to do something, giving up picks for established vets, that has not been tried successfully for 30 odd years. The only team that managed to do this and got away with it was the George Allen Redskins of the 70's. Given the fact that he is trying something so unorthodox I think it is fair to judge him on his results so far. Mike Tannenbaum is 27-31 as the Jet's GM. That suggests that he is about as capable of managing this scheme as the Redskins of the last decade, not the Redskins that pulled it off in the 70's.
I have to disagree...sort of. I understand we take too many shots trading for just a few guys, but I don't think the opposite way works either. Just because you stockpile on 2nd to 4th round picks doesn't mean you will necessarily get quality either. I'd rather take a shot on one guy, knowing that position is good or not rather than geting 5 guys and waiting for them to pan out. As for the lines...I agree with what you. Other than Mangold and Moore, the other three should go. But its not feasible right now. Next year Woodys gone for certain and if its an uncapped year, then bye-bye Faneca. But theres no way I see D'Brick gone for next year. As for the D, without Jenkins there seems to be no D-line and its bad. I don't see Shaun going, but I would really like to see some younger guys compete for a job here. The D-line is a must for this years draft. Rex will continue to refine this defense. There are guys that still don't fit his system. I assume Thomas and Rhodes are goners. Gholston if theres no cap maybe, but this is still mostly a Mangini era defense. Trim the fat and bring in younger, hungrier players. Rex knows defense and I still stand by that, but IMO he still hasn't got his shit together yet. Understandibly, he will be much more ready next year and hopefully he will be much more mature as a head coach.
I'd say offensive and defensive linemen are the biggest needs.. and maybe linebacker. Whatever other positions we draft is pretty much irrelevant to me.
OP nailed it and I have been debating this with various Jets fans. Tannenbaum is very easy to give up draft picks and the result is glaring in New York now. You have no depth. Teams that continually keep and stock additional draft picks are the succesful franchises (Colts, Pats, Steelers). Whether these teams lose players to injury or they leave for free agency, they always seem to fill the hole. Thank god the Fins rid themselves of years of that mentality and brought in Parcells who has started a solid foundation of depth.
2 thoughts, first what is with the Brick hate all of a sudden? The guy has been a great LT for us this year! today the 2 sacks by Banta Cain are on sanchez! The first one, Sanchez panicked and ran right into the on coming blitz, then tried to back up and fell right into Tully Banta Cain's arms. the second one, Sanchez held the ball for about 7 seconds. What more do you want from D'Brick? Sanchez has to get rid of the rock. Brick has done his fair share this year in the positive, he has kept elite ends off of Mark, like Mario Williams and he has been much better in the run game than Faneca has been. second point I love, Rex still has to bring in his guys. some of the dead weight on defense will be shed, and I have no doubts Rex will find a way to bring in his guys. I have no doubt Rex is going to be quite the FA recruiter for us. Back to the drawing board guys. We need some upgrades on the lines.
How has Tannenbaum had 10 years? he's been GM since 2006. I agree we need to rebuild on the DL but this DL mwould look alot better if Jenkins was healthny, wouldn't you agree? We aren't far off gtalent wise. The draft should be focused on the lines. We have our QB of the future, we are fine at RB, we are fine at WR(could use some depth), fine at TE, fine at LB, could use another corner. We don't have alot of holes to fill. He's done a good job so far.
I totally agree with you, but your typing was wasted. Mike T has already shown what type of GH he is, and that is the way it will be.
+1 Really, where's all this hate for D'Brick coming from? He has given three sacks all year, and everyone of them has been on Sanchez. Will Smith got the strip sack back in week 4 because Sanchez held to the ball for 9 seconds in his own endzone, Ferguson did his job in that one. The other two nyjetsrule just covered. There is no way Ferguson should be let go. I got to disagree about Tannebaum also. He has done a great job also, managing the cap and drafting players. We all know the draft is a crapshoot and no player is a sure bet to become a star, it's not even guaranteed that they'll be starters or in the league anymore in a couple of years. Tannebaum has done a great job drafting - we've got solid contributers from each of the two rounds from each of Tannebaum's drafts, except Gholston and Clemens. Now on the same span, New Engalnd, for example, have drafted the way GSour would want Tanny to draft. In the same span of drafts, 2006 to 2009 the Pats have got only Jerod Mayo and Brandon Merriweather who have lived up to their draft status. A notable contributor from this year's draft has been LT Sebastian Vollmer and a some-what notable Pat Chung and Julien Edelman. Now IMO, in this three year span Tannebaum has done a better job than the New England FO. In other words, stocpiling picks does not either mean insta-success as neither does fishing for big name free agents. There is also one crucial thing different about the Jets and the Pats, and the reason why NE can trade away their picks for future picks and to stockpile picks in later rounds. It is the fact that NE has arguably the best QB in the league for the past decade and the best HC in the league for that matter. Those are the two single most important positions in a winning franchise, and when you have those two positions locked, you can draft for depth and stockpile picks. I really hope we have locked those two positions with Ryan and Sanchez.
lol@ he's drafted better than New England New England goes for DEPTH, Jets have none. It's all about having players ready to step in and do your job
Guys if we are so bad that we need also to replace D- Brick we might as well rip it all apart and start over. He is a very good player, solid and does a good job.
Ia agree we need to keep or add picks, but the D brick hate is jsut silly. He's been very good for a couple of years now and started every Game at the most important spot on the line since Day one. It counteracts the other good things you say in that post.
