dont fire up revis

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  1. dubagedi

    dubagedi New Member

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    Isn't there safety help over the top on pretty much every play unless one of the two guys is up at the line to stop the run or something like that? It seems like Belichick was more trying to defend Moss for having an off game. I can understand why Revis got annoyed with the questions but asking someone like Mike Reiss if he knows football makes him sound douchey.
     
  2. GreyhoundJet

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    Can you explain to me,

    1.) Who is Mike Reiss?

    I am going to take a guess and say he is a beat reporter for the Herald.

    2.) Why is Mike Reiss asking questions if he doesn't know football?

    If he is a beat reporter why can't he answer a simple defensive question that a 10 year old playing Madden could answer.
     
  3. Sanpetejets

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    Someone like Mike Reiss? Who the fuck is Mike Reiss? The giggling 23 year old pretending to be a journalist on that call? Whoever he is he admitted he doesn't know football and the specifics of what he was questioning an NFL player about when (rightfully) challenged. I get the feeling Revis has done a few more interviews than you have. He knew they were trying to set him up. He didn't take the bait.
    Did YOU hear those two so called journalists snickering and giggiling to each other as they tried to bait Revis into a bulletin board answer? Did YOU hear them ask the same question 7 times, and only when coming back to it for the 7th time mention what Bellicheck had said about over the top help? That is bush league journalism, the kind usually practiced by 16 year olds with podcasts talking about which shitty local band is more Emo.

    And all this "over the top help" nonsense. What Revis is most likely referring to is the idea of having a pre-snap designed double team. They didn't do that. When he did get deep help or zone help, it was because Moss' route took him into a zone where there was help. Now unless Revis KNOWS the route Moss is gonna run before he runs it, he doesn't know if he has double team help or not until the route is on. So he cannot play any more aggressive or passive, he has to play what he thinks is coming, and react to what Moss does. That's what he means by man to man. God. The guy is a great corner, Moss is a great (when he wants to be) receiver. They are going to have an excellent, game within a game matchup this weekend, and all the NE media does is try to get him to admit he had help in the first game, and all the NY media does is focus on a fucking hot dog and an emotional coach.
     
  4. TheBlairThomasFumble

    TheBlairThomasFumble Active Member

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    Revis has at least shown up and played hard and effectively week in and week out, so maybe he can shut down Moss again.

    Rhodes? Not so much.
    Keller? Not so much.
    Scott? Not so much.

    Time for these other guys to start making some impact plays. Rhodes hits his iphone screen harder when he twitters than he does opposing players on the field.
     
  5. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    This is a bullshit argument.

    The simple fact is, that against any coverage, Brady and Moss have their way with the defense ...9 for 170+ Sunday)..When Revis, and the Jets were on the field Moss went 4 for 24. And following suit was (remind me again...) Andre Johnson, T.O....Lee Evans...Marques Colston....In fact in none of those games did the aforementioned catch MORE THAN FOUR BALLS.

    So...If the safety was primarily helping Revis, where were the throws to the other wideouts?

    F*ng Blow me belidouche.

    Revis probably gets 2 picks Sunday, as they try to force the ball to Moss...
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Did you listen to the interview? That guy was being a royal prick and Revis put him in his place. If you're going to try to call someone out on something like that, you better have your ducks in a row.

    I do find the timing of Belicunt's comments pretty interesting, considering the Jets lost one of their starting safeties this week. I wonder if he would have sadi anything with 2 healthy starters deep in the secondary.
     
  7. Kenny

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    if you listened to the interview bellicheck went on and on about how impressive revis is..
     
  8. dubagedi

    dubagedi New Member

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    He was with the globe for awhile and since has gone to espn.com. He's definitely got a Patriots bias but at the same time his writing and reporting over the past few years have been excellent and I think he's a very bright guy. He's been covering football for over a decade and I'm sure he knows what those defenses are. Listening to it again it's clear they knew the answer to the question and there was condescension in saying "is it possible" but but he still could have just admitted "yes" rather than asking professional reporters if they know anything about football. Small point considering how many questions he must get asked every week, it just sounded bad to me.

    Anyways, the distinction about having help over the top is dumb. Every single team always has safety help over the top when Moss is running vertical routes, and the Jets game wasn't that different. Maybe they didn't always have two guys on him at all times, but there was a safety back there a good amount (but not all) the time and I don't even get why that has become a point of contention. For some reason Revis wants it to sound like he was alone with Moss at all times at the Patriots want it to sound like the entire secondary was mauling him. Even if they didn't have two guys on him everyone knows that Moss is a deep ball player and there's no way safeties weren't paying attention to that.
     
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  9. GreyhoundJet

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    If he knew what the defenses were why did they say that he didn't? Also, he said he knew some stuff and didn't know others. How are you a football reporter for a decade and not know what a Cover 1, 2, 3 is? I just don't really get it. I won't get into the Revis debate much more but I'm curious as to why the beat reporters were so uninformed about football and how Revis questioning that makes him arrogant.
     
  10. dubagedi

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    It was an odd way of putting it but I don't think the question itself is that bad. Personally I think its interesting to hear players explain details like that. The question was basically them trying to have him explain that man-man coverage and safeties deep can occur on the same play, but they asked it with weird wording and in a round about way. I didn't think the questions they had been asking him up to that point where anything other than standard stuff, and I don't see how it was supposed to be "setting him up" other than trying to have him elaborate on what safeties do.

    Personally the guy is a hell of a player and I would probably say far more insulting stuff if people asked me basic questions about my job every single week and I was supposed to be cordial and polite all the time, I just thought he didn't need to bully them like that when the question itself wasn't malicious.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You couldn't pay me enough to listen to Belichick drone on about anything.
     
  12. Kenny

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    Oh please, they asked him the same question 7 different times..
     
  13. Hemi

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    The "weird wording" you hear is them trying to bait Revis into an answer to give to Moss as fodder. If you know defense and the NFL, it is not an "interesting" take on D to know most defenses deploy a safety, sometimes two, in a two man deep zone while playing man with the CBs. It is quite common, thus the reason that this is a dumb question. If you want to ask the player specific questions on whether he prefers press coverage, how he reads a receiver pre snap, then maybe their is some interest there, but to ask football basics seems silly for a one on one interview.
     
  14. greaser

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    If theres one consistant strength the Jets have its Darrelle Revis. Wouldn't trade him for anyone...I think I'll pick up his jersey.
     
  15. Hemi

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    You gonna rumble with the Socials tonight?
     
  16. greaser

    greaser Well-Known Member

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    Haha..Yeah, I think I might. Best movie ever, for me anyway. I grew up in a shitty town upstate and my buddies and me where greasers not outa' choice but outa' being poor. So I guess I kinda' identified...sorry for the long explanation.
     
  17. Hemi

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    I'm just glad you caught the reference and yes, great movie.
     
  18. greaser

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    Well, that was my 10th post and finally have magic link viewing abilities (you can't view links till' you have a post count of 10). I listened to the interview and I would be embarrassed to have guys like that represent the Jets to a rival team player or anyone. Never mind the crass interrogating, they totally got punked. How the fuck did they land a job interviewing a major star like Revis? Was there any type of vetting process or did they just pic some guys from the Pats mail room to interview Darrelle?
     
  19. alleycat9

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    no actually jackhole we sent the 2 safeties to the locker room for a massage. what kind of a turd do you have to be to not realize how coverages work to a certain extent.

    very frustrating to hear such bullshit and very annoying that these douchenibblers werent weeded out by the pr department before ever being granted an interview.

    greyhound the oversensationalistic bs journalism is one of the pitfalls of having a coach and players who are brash and talk to much, get used to it there are going to be douchebags all over the place from now on.
     
  20. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    that reporter got owned. lmao. Revis "topsy turvied that motherfucker" (props to whoever gets that reference)

    how the fuck do you run a radio talk show for a PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM and not know the most basic elements of defensive football? Fuck...the pimple faced 20 year old who cracks out to madden has a better grasp of defensive schemes then either of those clowns
     

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