What Ryan needs to do now is...

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  1. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Money and a chance to win are all that matters to a FA. In rare cases where a guy as won at least one championship and made oodles of money will he take a big pay cut to be where he wants.

    The Knicks could not attract most FA's because they are a mess. The Jets and Giants have had no problems bringing in FA's because they have a deep cash pool to work with. The Yankees give both huhge paydays and a chance to win. The Mets? They hand out big checks at least. Before the cap the Rangers got tons of talent due to the money they handed out and failed time and time again after '94. The Islanders have been so bad only a few would dare come there.

    Its about Money and the chance to win in some respect. A team that offers both has a huge leg up. Class is way overrated of an attribute. Most FA's are lookuing for dollar signs and/or a chance to win. The Thought of classy sportsmen and playnig your entire career are almost dead in this era. Even Greats like Joe Montana get moved more often than not.

    Disclipline helps win on the feild. It matters in the film room. Then again there are guys who are at thier best while talking smack. Bart Scott would be a shell of his former self if he did not have such a firey personality and run his mouth. Asking someone like that to change because the team lost is ridiculous. This is football not a chess club.
     
  2. Mickey Shuler 82

    Mickey Shuler 82 New Member

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    Best post I've read in a while.

    Rex is a f'in pretender. I withheld judgement before now, but I'm done with him. He has absolutely no clue how to run a team...a defense, maybe. A team, no way. I asked before he was hired and I ask again: why didn't Baltimore hire Rex. They had some 10 years of inside, first hand knowledge of Rex. And passed on him ... for a special teams coach in a different conference.

    Rex has shown no leadership. That trip up to Cortland is really paying off now. Not. This guy's got shades of Rich Kotite. The team is undisciplined, lacking in execution and has no class. Thanks Rex.

    I'd fire Rex after this season and save two more years of mediocrity before Woody decides to pull the trigger following five straight years of no playoffs. For the record, I wanted Spags as our coach. I still do.
     
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  3. snipes824

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    ridiculous.
     
  4. The_W

    The_W Banned

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    What the FUCK are you talking about? This must be the most ignorant post I've seen in this forum in a while, and that is saying something as we've had a few bonehead threads and posts here in the BYE week.
     
  5. Mickey Shuler 82

    Mickey Shuler 82 New Member

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    Thanks for the insight, Michel de Nostredame. Your well-reasoned retort has blown me away, and I am now reconsidering my post. Do you know how to delete posts?
     
  6. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    All Rex has to do is win and get this team deep in the playoffs by 2011. If he can't do that, next.
     
  7. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    it is worthless to use reason with the unreasonable. what you posted was quite unreasonable.
     
  8. Mickey Shuler 82

    Mickey Shuler 82 New Member

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    Hyperbole, sure. Inaccurate ultimately? Time will tell.

    I have not seen anyone answer yet why Rex didn't get the Baltimore job. Did Ozzie see the things we're seeing -- a lot of punch, loose with the details.
     
  9. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    ok i'm pretty sure this has been stated before,but here it goes:why would the ravens promote their d.c. to h.c. when they can hire someone else and still keep the d.c.?the offense was holding that team back while the d was cosistently the best in the league.so you keep the d.c. where he is and hire someone more offensive minded.very simple
    i hope this helps
     
  10. BadgerOnLSD

    BadgerOnLSD Banned

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    Rex Ryan is 4-4. Harbaugh is 4-4. Spagnuolo is 1-7.

    Yeah, that Ryan guy sure does suck.
     
  11. IBLEEDGREEN17

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    not to mention the ravens are undeniably more talented.
     
  12. The_W

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    I really hope you would be serious here, as that should be enough to see what utter bs you sprewed with that post of yours and it should be deleted, but I'm afraid that's impossible, but you could erase all the text and replace it with a pic of polar bears or pizza etc. But unfortunately for every one you were being sarcastic.

    As ukilledkenny said it's worthless to reason with the unreasonable, but what the hell, I'm gonna try. Just for shits and giggles.

    Rex has been the head coach of this team for half a season and your already calling for his head. My god, have a little patience. We're 4-4 with a rookie QB at helm. What were you expecting at this point of the season, a Superbowl? Comparing Rex to Kotite is the dumbest argument one can make, especially since Rex has already won the same amount of games in half a season as Rich did in two seasons.

    And I don't know where you've come up with the idea that Rex has no leadership. If this was true we certainly would have not won four games already, and we certainly wouldn't have been in every game and had a chance to win, if this ludicrous statement of yours would be true.

    So can you please explain why it would be in any shape or form a good decision to fire Rex after just one season?

    And why would Steve Spagnuolo be any better? Has he shown any more leadership or HC skills in his 8 games with the Rams than Rex with the Jets? He was also a great DC, but as far as this season has gone, I wouldn't say he has been a Bill Walsh or a Don Shula. I might be wrong, but I kinda agree with Badger that Rex's 4-4 record as HC is a wee bit better that Spagnuolo's 1-7. Corrext me if I'm wrong.
     
  13. Jets007

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    I believe Jets will end up with 10-6 this season and bound for a wildcard spot!
     
  14. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Realistically what Ryan has to do right now is halt the slide. Lost in all of the reasons for why the Jets have lost 4 out of the last 5 (rookie QB, defense and ST breakdowns, inconsistency in the play calling on offense) is the fact that they have lost 4 out of 5. If the slide continues it will likely cost Ryan his job, although not until after 2010.

    He needs to figure out what the common threads are in the losing streak and get them sewn up because the Jets have looked like a snake-bitten loser for the last 5 weeks.
     
  15. Mickey Shuler 82

    Mickey Shuler 82 New Member

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    Harbaugh was 5-3 at this point last year, went 11-5 for the year, but whatever. You signing up for 11-5? Spags took over a team that drafted second in 2009. But let's not waste our time.

    I just haven't seen anything from Rex that tells me he's anything different than his dad, or any different from Mangini where it matters (results). Sure, he's fun to listen to. I like that he blitzes more than Mangini did. But he's showing himself to be a game manager on the scale of Herm, he's proving to have the killer instinct of Pete Carroll's team, and the stamina of Groh's. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm not buying it right now.
     
  16. Mickey Shuler 82

    Mickey Shuler 82 New Member

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    See my post to Badger.

    You're attributing his record to a rookie QB. I won't. I'd have patience if it was only a rookie QB problem. But the Buffalo game was just as much caused by ST snafus, defensive lapses, and penalties as it was Sanchez's five picks. I give Rex a pass on NO, but the two Miami games weren't the result of a rookie QB letdown. They were miscommunication/execution lapses on defense and ST. Is it unfair to expect better? To demand better? From a defensive guru?

    I wish we were precisely bad (ex. a struggling rookie QB; a decimated personnel group on offense/defense/STs; non competiveness in one area of the team). Because that's fixable given time and resources. But when you're only showing yourself to be proficient everywhere, and excellent nowhere, then it's hugely critical to get all the little things right. And we don't.

    Since the Pats game, what have you seen from Rex that suggests he gets it? The beat down of Oakland? Yikes. I see miscues, muffs and misadventures every game. If the problems were the fault of one or two players, then it would be a them problem. But that's not the case -- so it's a him problem.

    He continually talks about being removed from what goes on with the offense, as if it's a badge of honor. I don't know what he says about STs, but you get the feeling he has the same level of engagement there. This is the bigtime and he's accountable for it all. And if he's taking the tact that delegation is key, that's fine. But then he's chosen people who are unsuitable for their roles. That's a him problem.

    Going into the Jacksonville game, how confident are you that the Jets will come out an execute for 60 minutes. Honestly. Because this game should not even be a question mark in your mind. But I bet it is.

    And, yes, I would fire Rex after the season if they finish below .500. That's clear regression. Shoot, Mangini went 9-7 last year.
     
  17. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    This thread = [​IMG]


    I can't believe what I am reading. Now I know why I stayed off the board the last few days.
     
  18. SanityRemoved

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    It's becoming apparent why Favre wanted to be released. No faith in the OC. Either Rex gets control of the coordinator or we have a tough second half of the season. We have the talent but are lacking in the play calling to win games consistently.
     
  19. NDmick

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    Favre wanted to be released so he can play with the Vikings. Let's stick with the facts here.
     
  20. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    i don't see anyone changing Shuler 82's mind anytime soon. Don't waste the time arguing.
     

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