I think the Jets are the only team in the NFL without at least 1 WR drafted in the first 2 rounds in the draft. So we are the only team that can claim our WRs are underated and mean that both literally and figuratively.
I actually was thinking about this the other day. Our #1 was a (?) 4th Round pick and our #2 was a 7th Round pick. Not that Stuckey has been outstanding or anything like that, but he definitely is performing better than a 7th Rounder.
you called them underrated due to their draft status. That was the point he was trying to make. the reason why the media doesn't drool all over them is because they are possession guys who seem to get YAC with every completion. That won't get you on ESPN. They were certainly steals in the draft.
you basically said that because the Jets don't have a wideout drafted in the first 2 rounds....that they should be labeled as "underrated". Well....Marques Colston of the Saints was drafted in the 7th round....and is easily a top 10 Wideout in this league. I wouldn't call that "underrated"...would you?
WOW...OK, I guess that's one way my post could be interpreted. I was coming from the perspective that a lot of fans like to call their WRs underrated, like the Giant fans I know, when they got a bunch of high draft picks. What says more about how teams "rate" players than where they are drafted. I would say Colston was "underrated" when he came in the league.
^ relax dude...it was just a point of interest....i wasn't trying to be malicious. BTW.... Nobody knew who Colston was when he came into the league......unless, your name happened to be Mr.Electric29.
i have said this for years folks...... the jets have gotten by on the cheap at the WR spot over the last 10-15 years. since taking johnson in 95 #1 the only other 1st round receiver and TE selections were becht in 2000, moss in 2001, and keller in 2008.... actually you can look at it both ways.....WR has been a relative weakness that hasn't been addressed OR the jets have gotten more than enough out of lower round selections and free agents... it will be interesting to see what happens going forward cause we now have a frnachise qb who needs first round talent at WR and a defensive minded coach that may just want to get by at WR. jil
First round does not equal talent. There are as many first round WR busts as any other position. In fact, there are far more first round busts from WRs, RBs and QBs than the other positions. People fail to realize that you generally only have 1 first round pick a year. So over 5-7 years that is 5-7 players. Some positions are bound to be ignored. I would rather draft OL, DL , LB and DB in the first round than skill positions. If anything, the Jets neglected OL in the first round until the Ferguson/Mangold draft and now the OL is the anchor of the offense. I also have said all year that I don't see the Jets receivers as a weakness. Cotchery, Keller, and Stuckey are just fine thank you. This emphasis on finding a #1 is the biggest bunch of BS I have been reading since March.
Everyone is correct here. Cotchery and Stuckey were underrated WHEN they were drafted because they are outperforming their selections. However, compared to the league currently, I wouldn't call them underrated because Stuckey is average/slight above (despite when he was drafted) and Cotchery is starting to garner the recognition that he deserves. BradwaySux detailed this in another thread -- Cotchery is one of the best WRs in the NFL in YAC. People are beginning to see that, especially after that opening play of the 2nd Half last week.
People are beginning to see that Cotchery is one of the best WRs in the NFL for YAC????? He has been among the league leaders for three years now. Why does it take so long for people to see that. And, by the way, an NFL leader in YAC is not a "possession receiver" as people like to call Cotchery. Systems and QBs often make WRs. Cotchery is among the top 10 in yards receiving in the NFL after two weeks. If he stays in that range with a rookie QB and a run first offense, can we finally stop the "Jets need a #1 WR" talk????
We know what we have because we watch them closely as fans but does the rest of the football world agree? If you look at various metrics one would use to rate players, I would say our WR corps is, deservingly or not, still underrated. 1. Where were they drafted in the NFL Draft? 2. Do the majority of fans and media feel we stand to improve at the position? 3. Is the team looking to improve the position? 4. How much time opposing teams spend game planning against the player(s)? 5. Where are they drafted in fantasy draft ratings? 6. Madden ratings? Remember with the absence of Coles, it's a step up for each of them. This is the first time Cotch is a #1 at the NFL level. Same goes for Stuckey as a #2 and down the position depth chart. With each passing week they are proving their critics wrong but to think they have dispelled these perceptions in the span of 2 games would be wishful thinking. 2 games does not make a body of work. You prove to the masses you are below average, medeocre, slightly above average, great...etc. in a certain role through a couple seasons of consistent play in that role or at the very least one full season.
I called Cotchery coming out of NC State. I remember being absolutely ecstatic at that pick. And then I remember my cousin (big Missouri fan) going crazy when we took Brad Smith. Me>cousin.
Yup. I don't see Cotchery catching many deep balls based on his speed. What I do see are plays where he catches the ball in the 10-20 yard range and then gets YAC. He's been doing this ever since he got playing time, and it's the same thing he did at NC St. I remember being in college in North Carolina at the time, so every week, I had a chance to watch NC St. Rivers' main target was Cotchery, and you could tell that Cotchery had the skill to play on the next level. The only reason he slipped in the draft was because scouts questioned his speed; they thought he wouldn't be a deep threat nor be able to separate from NFL DBs. But he's one of those players that plays at a higher speed during the game, esp after the catch. Not to mention, he's very strong which makes it difficult for CBs to tackle him upon first contact. And yeah, people are taking a while to catch on -- which is exactly why he's underrated in that regard. However, anyone who truly knows football, has already realized his talent.
Easily? (In no particular order) Smith Moss Fitzgerald Boldin Ochocinco Houshmanzadeh Wayne Marshall A. Johnson C. Johnson Jennings Are all better than Colston, in my opinion.
