There should be a rule, but there should also be a league/contract structure that prevents it from happening. If I make a rule that says you can drink still water and not sparkilng water on the streets in NY, since every store sells both and since I can't tell which one it is unless i drink some how can I excpect everyone to follow that rule? I'd be much better off by saying some stores can only sell still water and some can only sell sparkling... so when I see someone drinking outside a shop that only sells sparkling I go check what he is drinking. the way the league is set up EVERYONE is encouraged to tamper to have a better idea of the players contract demands. In a world in which communication is so easy there is NO WAY to prohibit a certain type of communication between a plyer and an agent. If you want to protect the investment teams make in the draft you can either put a fixed salary for rookies or designate agents that only treat rookie contracts. Say Eugene Parker is the agent of Damien Woody (he isn't)... how can you prove Tanny was talking to him about Crabtree and not about Woody? Rules make sense if they are made so that everyone follows them... if they are created so that if you don't follow them nobody catches you 90% of the time they are just a way of shoving it up honest people's asses.
The headline for this article blows. Yeah tampering is bad and unethical; don't mess with draft picks. On the other hand we never even got to see the spygate videos, they were destroyed. Imagine how fans of the NFL would have reacted to the spygate videos if they had been made available to the public. Belly probably wouldn't have a job. Possible edge in three super bowls from it. I can't see the comparison.
Agreed, I read this article when it was called every other article about this. Where are the Editors here?
That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard right there.... Saying that spygate was limited!??? are you fukin kidding me? The Pats cheated in everygame they played that they got video on, how is that "Just 2 teams". IMO, that's someone trying to stick it to the JETS. They're trying to make it sound as if the JETS are going through all the draft and tampering with a bunch of picks which is BS. SPYGATE was one of the biggest cheats in NFL history and is deserving of a*.... Cheating in actualy games is far worse than talking to an agent...screw that.
no rule makes everyone follow it. the point is to provide recourse against anyone who breaks it and is caught. by your reasoning, holding penalties don't stop anyone from holding, and many players get away with it, so it is a bad rule. no, it isn't. it is just difficult to enforce throughout the game.
I fail to see how coming between a shitty team and a top 10 prospect player comes even remotely close to cheating their way to 3 Super Bowl rings.
Jed York for the 49ers knows shinola about football and NFL operations. These tampering charges against the Jets are going no where. Can anyone really image Tannenbaum offering $40 million garenteed to a rookie wide receiver with a bad foot? Who knows what on earth Crabtree is thinking with this holdout. If he goes back into the draft he may well not even go in the top ten. With that, he will then be offered less money next year than he has on the table right now. And if he goes back in the draft and is still on the board with the Jets pick at 32 they certainly aren't giving him $40 million then.
The structure of the game encourages holding but you don't change the structure of the game, because it's more important then the penalty itself... the structure of the league isn't more important than the fact that all teams have to have equal rights toward negotiating contracts. The structure of the league is such that teams can have equal rights... so if it doesn't provide that you change it. Of course I didn't mean EVERYONE. But it has to encourage people to... if every GM (and Mike Lombardi said that) knows that only 1 out of 10 gets caught, who cares about the rule! They'll just try and then come what may... Many more players get holding penalties called.
I'm 100% sure whoever drafts/trades for Crabtree next year will give him more money then what the 49ers offer. Parker isn't that stupid... if they are holding out this much it's obvious some other team told him they'd give him at least 20 mill guaranteed and 27 to 30 mill... don't know if it was the Jets though.
there is no rule that could stop it and no rule that can increase the ability to identify it. all you can do is put a rule in place to prohibit and hope it is followed, and in cases where there is evidence of it, penalize the infractor. that doesn't make it a bad rule just because the situation it addresses is near impossible to prove.
I'm not saying it's a bad rule for what it intends to avoid... I'm saying it's a bad rule for HOW it is made. If you think it's important to ban something find an efficient way to stop it, don't just make a rule and hope someone falls in the net sometimes so you can prove you are against it. I've read somewhere this is being discussed in the new CBA so we'll just have to wait and see... let's just hope we are not the sacrificial lamb in this situation :S.
If the Jets were caught tampering, I would agree with harsher penalties than the ones applied to New England for Spygate. Because this is a case of potentially fucking up the entire slotting process for the draft (not that this specific house of cards needs much more of a push before it collapses.) That said, the Jets won't be caught tampering, unless they are far more incompetent than we all thought possible. And even if the league could come up with some sort of hard evidence, I'm not entirely convinced that they would act on it--let's not forget, they are the ones who created this culture where draft picks get paid more than 10 year veterans, and where nobody says a word when Albert Haynesworth supposedly hammers out and signs a $100 million dollar deal in 20 minutes. Any single team getting busted looks bad for the entire league.
He also is and was a client and friend of Parker's. He said at least two other teams would be willing to give Crabgrass $40mil. I don't think you just pull that stuff out of your ass (or Deion's ass). I wonder why we haven't heard a 2nd team mentioned? Unless someone left a trail, nothing will ever come of this....
Hello?! Exactly! I do not understand that at all. And I don't know if anybody can say one is worse than the other; they're both wrong and unethical. I always thought that in-game cheating (in any sport) was the worst crime because it affects many facets and really taints the league in which it occurred. But I guess, since this is the Jets we're talking about, then it's by far the worst crime ever committed. The way this is being portrayed, it makes the Holocaust look like a parking ticket.
Because the second team is probably Deion's binky, a team that publicly stated it's need for a wide receiver - the Dallas Cowboys.
