I gotta ask.. What is with all of this "KC is a vet, he shouldn't be making those kind of throws!!" "He's had four years to do something, but he hasn't." "Sanchez is far better than, Clemens!" A veteran of what? Practice? The 7-8 starts that he had behind that awful offensive line? Is he a veteran if living in the shadow of two quality QB's in his tenure of being a NYJ? He has had four years of zero chance. This is the first year he has had some what of a chance at becoming the starter, but the odds are still stacked against him. I don't want to here about 07', that is crap. Nobody would've played good football at the QB postion behind that offensive line that year. Screw that. Finally, how does everyone figure that Sanchez is so much better at this point? Is it because of his draft grade, the pick he was selected at, the massive trade up to get him, or the massive contract he landed for being such a high draft pick? Those are the only things I see being better then, KC. Knowledge, skill set, and instincts all seem to be in KC's favor at this point. From what I've seen anyway. KC hasn't been given a chance to improve his game, he hasn't been given a chance to see what he can do behind a good offensive line. He doesn't have the game experience either, so why is he to be expected to be so much farther ahead then, Sanchez? Seriously, someone that is far more educated then me, please enlighten me here. It just doesn't make much sense to me. It just seems like everyone is getting caught up in the hype of the situation, and nothing more. It's a little unfair if you ask me.
He's had 4 years of exposure to this offensive system. He's had a head coach and offensive coordinator in each of those seasons who desperately needed a QB to work out to make the offense work. He's had multiple opportunities to step up and just take the job. Every time he's gotten a chance he's spit the bit in some way and the Jets have gone and gotten another option. Last night was a PERFECT example. Sanchez didn't look good when he was in at QB and the door opened just a tiny crack for a great performance by Clemens to get him the job. What did he do? He'd barely gotten started before he threw a pick 6 and the door closed again. Sometimes you just need to grab the opportunity and make it good. Kellen Clemens does not have that ability.
I think KC is better at this point. He had a better game last night than MS did. Not that that is exactly saying much because MS played poorly last night. I'd like to see KC get the start against the Giants and see how he does.
KC was supposed to be the big savior when Chad was stinking up the joint in 2007. I think it's guilt because so many people cheered Chad's injury. They're projecting.
He has failed to show any sort of consistency and quite frankly he is all out of excuses. If Clemens were halfway decent, he would be running away with this QB competition. Whenever a team starts a rookie QB they A) are a rebuilding team or B) have no better options on the roster.
Clemens has had some chances, he just hasn't taken advantage of them. His rookie year was an open competition, people say that's stacked against him but look at this year. In 2007 he had a chance to at least look a little better than he did, although the team was bad. Not to say he should have saved the season or been Superman but something better than 8 TDs in 90 posessons or whatever it was. I have nothing against him, if he puts on Jet helmet and plays QB I'm all for him, but I tend to think if he was anything special we'd have seen some signs of it by now and not still be guessing and hoping about it four years in. Regarding Sanchez, people love anyone they haven't seen fail yet, so he's getting a pass for now. As WSW said, give it time and people will turn on him, too. Look what happened with Chad after he was the golden boy here, people couldn't wait to run him out of town.
4 years of failure to impress, even against a rookie. I'm not hating though. He's a classy guy and I think he's a great backup, but doesn't have anything special.
I agree with you here. Kellen's best work was in the preseason of 2007. I had hope for him after a gutsy showing against the ravens that year in what would have been a win if McCarins could catch the damn ball. Since then I have seen little of the fire or play making ability he showed in flashes that season when he has had the chance to play. He looks just as lost as the Rookie at times and after all the time he's spent in the same system thats not a good thing.
When you're in your 4th year, and you can't take this opportunity away from a rookie with 16 college starts, you have a problem. A QB with promise would have already made Ryan announce Sanchez is learning this year.
Sadly part of the moronic fan base is to pounce on whatever is seen as a popular scapegoat. However Clemens shows no real sign of improving even in limited play saying that I would like KC to start the season and see how it goes. I think throwing Dirrty in now would be a stupid call based on the $ paid rather than his abilities now
agreed. i'd have no problem sitting snachez for a half or full year. he did respond nicely once the nerves got out of his system, but i'm not a bit surprised he was nervous. he faced two HOFers on an elite defense that the Jets wish they could be. Sanchez had a performance I expected out of a rookie with his experience. The kid is going to need more time to get better. Because he hasn't completed one season yet. People overract. Their football fans.
Based on thier play thus far, Clemens is not playing better than Sanchez. Would you have a good reason not to start the younger guy with more potential? Dollars aside, if the race is 50/50 as it appears the Jets should go with the guy with more room to grow.
First of all you see the overstatement when they say four years. THIS is is fourth year, and they're barely halfway through pre-season. He has not had four years.
Neither of our QBs are gonna win any awards this year. I don't think either of these guys are going to amount to shit unless you put one of them in and just stick with him. Let him play his way in or out, but don't base it on one game. Unfortunately, if you pick the wrong guy, you've wasted a ton of games, but that's part of the deal. I think either one of these guys would struggle this year. Probably in the end, it'll be Sanchez solely based on the $$$ they are paying him. At least in Detroit, Stafford will likely start the year on the bench because Culpepper had been a proven QB at one point in his career. If we had Culpepper (or equivalent) on our team, I think Sanchez doesn't start the season as the #1.
I am NOT saying they should start Clemens, but the business of benching would be a bit tougher with Sanchez than him. Start Sanchez and benching him several games down the road is a big problem. Starting Clemens, not the same. If he sucks, the expectation is Sanchez can gain some more time getting ready. Not the same, imo...
Being brutally realistic I would throw Clemens in and see how he performs meanwhile giving Sanchez to soak up the playbook etc . get him by game 7 when the fever of the media will have dropped and let him play then. I know we have said this for 40 years but this year ain't our year.
Honestly I think the Jets and especially Ryan saw exactly what they wanted from Sanchez... he got blitzed, he got hit , and he got picked.... what did he do? He responded by leading the team down the field for a TD. That's exactly what you would want from your franchise QB. I predicted before the game that Rex was throwing Sanchez to the wolves just to see how he would respond... once the nerves were out he played better.
