I really don't think that we are going to run out an acquire another starting-caliber wideout, because Rex saw in 2000 how effective an elite receiving TE could mask a depleted WR corps when they used Shannon Sharpe in this capacity. Dustin Keller certainly shows the potential to be an elite receiving TE. I'd like to pose a hypothetical question here to the peeps of TGG: If Shonn Greene and Leon Washington are able to create an effective 1-2 punch and take over Thomas Jones' carries for 2009, and the Jets can find a trade partner for TJ, which would you prefer: 1) TJ is traded for picks. 2) TJ is traded for a starting wideout. 3) TJ is traded for a blocking TE and depth at OL. 4) TJ is trade for a blocking TE and depth at DL. 5) Other (explain?)
I don't see you getting much value for Jones at this point. Maybe a fourth rounder. Plus expecting to be a run first team, the team needs him at this point. You have what you have this year, and now you prepare to draft a WR in the first round next year if needed.
I guess it would depend on the players being proposed for in these hypothetical trades. For example....I don't want Nate Burleson...but i'd take a flier on Braylon Edwards....if the selection was #2 in your list. So given that there's some "gray area" in some of the options being proposed. I'm going to go with #1 and trade him for picks....given that we know the 2010 draft is supposedly stocked with major prospects.
I don't think we're going to trade Jones so I can't respond. He's only costing us 900k this year and he led the AFC in rushing last year. We don't really have a quality starting running back behind him, Greene is too... Green.
hypothetical is a BIG word....I understand that. But what the OP is saying is that "IF we traded TJ".....and the reason why he's using TJ...is because of the recent trade speculation.
I orgianally was for the idea of trading TJ for a starting wideout. But after hearing Rex talk about it and just thinking about our style of play this year I am not for it anymore. This guy was the number one rusher last year and we are going to run the ball all the time this year. So obviously we shouldn't trade him. There is nothing wrong with having three good HBs. Also after watching the game on Friday I felt as though we can make it with the no names we have. Why not. I thought we threw the ball around to lots of different WRs and they all looked pretty compitent. So I say we do not trade him and just run run run the ball and take a chance on who we have. Now I wouldn't be upset if we got Boldin in here for him but I don't think that is happening so lets just see how it pans out.
I also don't think we trade Jones. We still have 3 million in dead money if we do, not that it matters at this point but what are they going to get that is better than a starting RB for him? Nothing I would think. What they might do is trade a future pick for another WR in a couple of weeks. That seems more likely.
draft pick(s). Tanny has been trading away picks since he took over. It is going to catch up with us depth-wise if we don't start recouping some picks somehow. I wouldn't mind trading away TJ at all. No knock against him personally - but he is only as good as his oline. We have the makings of a damn good oline. The kind of line that any competent back should be able to run behind(Woodhead? Veteran cut?).
That's true in theory, but there are 2 problems: 1) We have no idea if Shonn Greene will be a competent NFL running back. Plenty of backs who were successful running a power game in college have failed to keep it up at the next level (think Ron Dayne or Maurice Clarret.) 2) We have no idea if Leon Washington can carry a #1 load yet. He's a great playmaker and a perfect change of pace back, but he's a little guy and he really may not be durable enough to carry the offense. Add to these two problems that Thomas Jones isn't really making much money this year, and he wouldn't return more than a mid round pick (contrary to what many Jets homers on this board seem to believe.) Trading TJ would sort of be making a deal just for the sake of making it, I feel more comfortable keeping him around for 1 more season.
I don't think we trade TJ at least not for a WR anyway. I think that the WRs we have are good enough to keep other teams honest. Keller should be able to cause match-up problems for the d making the running game effective. Anyone we could get right now would not be significantly better so I think we should stand pat. Hypothetically, I would only want to trade TJ as an option if a player gets injured and we need to find a replacement.
I chose blocking TE for obvious reasons (we've begun cutting the ones on the roster) and a backup NT. Second would be TE and depth on the OL. After that, it's close between draft picks and a receiver.
There's no way we'd be able to trade TJ for a #1-type WR, so if we were to trade him, I'd want picks in return. That said, ignoring that this is hypothetical, Leon is great, but not a #1 RB. He's a fantastic RBBC guy, and that's why Jones has to stick around this year. Let's do the wait-and-see thing with Greene before going crazy.
From what I've seen from Leon he is far and away a better option as a #1 RB. His vision, patience, power and speed are all better than Jones. His only question is durability - and I am confident that won't be an issue. He very rarely takes direct contact. Leon has a knack for avoiding the big hit. He has just enough wiggle to fight for the extra yard without paying the price for it.
Finding a WR to equal the value of a Thomas Jones would most likely not help our team right now. We are looking for a dynamic WR. Trading Jones straight up will not bring the type of return we need. If some sort of package was introduced including Jones for a dynamic WR then I would be all for it. But that's just another hypothetical situation. If it is just Jones traded, I would expect a draft pick in return. And for 2009, a draft pick does nothing to help us.
Thomas Jones better not be traded. I don't think we're gonna win without him. This poll is severely flawed!
