From what we saw, it looks as though we don't need to go out and bring in a vet WR. And as has been stated, there aren't many choices out there to begin with, unless Plaxico will be given the green light to play. But we'll know after a few more games whether Clowney is the real deal, whether Stuckey can manufacture open looks, whether Brad Smith is not just a special teams guy, whether Wright could make the connection with Sanchez during gametime and not just practice, and whether our Rook Davis can consistently hold on to the ball. And yes, Keller is our best receiver and can make the others look good too. And we have great RBs and a great offensive line. We're in a pretty good position right now, IMO.
Of course the designation in and of itself is garbage. I am sure however you know what everybody in the football world is referring to when they talk about #1 receivers, right? Somebody who causes the opposing defense to game plan for. We don't have one.
Harison has always been aloof and distant from teamates. His personality is not that of a mentor type. Add that to the stories of the shootings that he was involved in, his drop off in play, and the money he would demand to play for the JEts and I want no part of him.
ive seen clowney since his days at Virginia Tech. the knock on him was his hands and route running. but thats also because VT's system is the epitome of "not pass friendly" then as said earlier he couldnt stay healthy and never seemed consistent in GB. the guys basically a WR whos not ultimately consistent IMO. BUT, hes good for at least 1 40+ yd catch a game is he stays healthy. which is good enough for me. hope he pans out and stays healthy. i think stuckey being more fundamentally sound and having better hands makes him a good number two. also clowney would be a mess for most nickels to cover. im sure schotty will rotate them and make different WR sets. i think stuckey will prove to be a legit number 2. as long as Cotch can beat an occasional double team or Keller can alleviate pressure from our WR's we should be ok. NOT GREAT, but not horrid. although I think Keller is gonna dominate. lets hope he stays healthy.
no one was roling the safety towards coles alot last year and the rushing attack was slightly better than average i'd say.my prediction is stuckey's the 2 but will move to the slot in 3 wr sets
Wr's i think marvin harrison could be a good addition only if the price is right. other than that you have to give guys an opportunity to prove themselves or fail. i think our depth and varied sizes, speeds, and skill sets, will make it very difficult for a DC or DB coach to game plan. i think we have the ability to throw out a different starting line up every week, save cotch and keller of course. at least until the 2 and 3 are truly distinguished.
Our receivers are "fine" but they aren't a big threat. They can get the job done and do a solid job but they won't hurt you as much as I'd like.
The Jets WRs could certainly be improved though. Nobody will be ranking the Jets WRs high in that department this season. Cotchery is not a No. 1, that's clear. Maybe there is a No. 1 guy in Clowney or someone else but they have a lot to show before that claim can be made. I think Clowney, Cotch, and Stuckey will be the top 3 WRs on the Jets, but Keller and Cotch will lead all Jets players in receptions.
... I have to disagree with this one. Decent ones will let you get by, but great ones can put the team over the top. Look how Giants offense crumbled after Plax shot himself in the leg last year. A great WR outside can command double team, stripping the defense of one safety. This means that less of a run support in return. Result is 10 on 9, not 10 on 10 as you predicted.
I'm with you- I think the Jets WR now are OK but nothing special. The phenomenal QBs like (ugh) Brady can make do with an average WR corp. He did wonders with marginal talent at WR. That being said, I'm perfectly content with the WR situation this year. There's nothing better than young WR with a young QB- you don't need to worry about egos and guys complaining about not getting the ball. All these guys are hungry and they want to prove that they belong- that internal competition will show what these guys are made of. If they stink this year, then it will be clear that they need to address WR in the offseason. I'm not expecting a ton this year, so I don't see what we have to lose personally.
This year will serve as a perfect occasion for all our WR (Cotchery, Stuckey, Clowney, Smith, Wright, maybe Davis) to see IF they can play in the NFL and how many responsabilities can be handed to them. After that if everyone steps up to their role very well, otherwise next years draft will offer good value for a WR in the first 2-3 rounds. I still think L. Murphy or R. Barden could have been useful to this team but I'm sure some talent will step up as well next year. OL and DL depth are a lot more worrying right now... all of you keep saying our team is young but 2/5 of the OL and 3/3 of our DL are over 30 years old... will we be able to fix that? Hope so...
i agree with this post 100%... i also agree out lack of depth at DE is a glaring issue that seems to be flying under the radar which was mentioned by a different poster
If the defense wants to take away the run by allowing the safety to play run then we have one-on-one at the WR slots. Keller will have lots of room to do his thing in the middle of the field. Keller is the key component here. Without him, I'd agree we may be seeing lots of 8 man fronts.
You didn't answer my question. So I'll ask it again in response to this post. Given that receivers take 2-3 years to break out, when does a defense know who to double team and when? When did Jennings become the guy to double team in Green Bay, White in Atlanta? When did Wayne become the #1 in Indy over Harrision? How do you explain the huge jump in production receivers take in their third season? And how do you account for differences in QBs and schemes? And how do you know that Keller won't develop into the playmaker who demands attention from opposoing defenses? And what free agent WR out there demands any more than the nickle back in single coverage let alone a double team. I could cover Marvin Harrison at this stage of his career.
So give me a list of the WRs that will be "great" this year and let's see how you do in predicting. The list of productive WRs changes every year as some get old, systems change from pass to run and run to pass, QBs emerge or decline or are injured, and young receivers mature and begin producing. Just look at the career stats of receivers and you see a big jump in year 3. If you don't see that jump by year 5, the jump in production never comes. And guess what, if the young receiver doesn't play, you never see that jump. And as for those that think that drafting a receiver in the first round of next year's draft will be the answer, please keep in mind that 50% of WRs drafted in the first round are busts historically and those that aren't take - you guessed - three years to develop. So a receiver drafted next year in the first round has a 50% chance of being a productive pro in 2012. Let's see what we have on the roster this year. The Jets made the mistake of drafting Moss years back before Coles broke out. When Coles broke out (in his third year), they had Moss and Coles and Chrebet and after paying Moss first round money they didn't want to tie up all that money in WR, which led to the whole Coles to Washington thing.
Not sure how anyone can say our WR corp is "fine", especially after one preseason game. Cotchery is a No. 2 in a No. 1 role, and we have 4 unprovens after him. Clowney, although looking good in a couple preseason games, hasn't ever shown he can do anything when it counts. The only one who has even remotely proven himself is Stuckey, and he just dropped off the face of the earth last season (although, in fairness, so did much of the offense thanks to Favre's injury). Is there potential? Absolutely, and I'm excited about it. But to say we're "fine" is simple willful blindness.
In a rebuilding season there's nothing wrong in waiting to see what we have. Keller is not a WR he is a TE and we don't know if we are fine good or suck at WR. A preasons game against an awful team installing a new D means nothing. It is what it is which isn't bad or good until we know if its bad or good which we don't know. That's what rebuilding teams are about, finding out and shoring it up over time.
I'm not so sure that this is a classic "rebuilding" season. The team wasn't in the same shape as the Rams or Browns. Some areas needed retooling, but the team as a whole didn't need rebuilding.
I suppose I should have said GB fans loved Clowney. That's a fact, they had high hopes for him, but GB has never lacked depth at WR, and he got released. He did the same thing there... great couple of preseason games, got hurt. Just like he did here last year.
