Gholston definitely looked better last night than he did at any time last year. Still not good enough, but at least for now he is heading in the right direction. I like to believe that he plays hesitantly because he doen't really know what he's doing rather than because he doesn't care enough about playing football. If the season started tomorrow the Jets would be in trouble replacing Calvin Pace. In the next three weeks one of those guys, and it may be Gholston, needs to step up. Sanchez looked great. Poised and confident. Need to see him play more than one series to decide who is better. If he can do what he did last night under pass rush pressure, and having to go deep and wide into the play book, then I would think the job is his to start the season. I was originally hoping that Clemens would win the job. After watching Sanchez move on the field last night I'm looking forward to him starting on openning day.
Is anyone who posted above willing to assert that Gholston looked decisive and fast on the football field last night? I know he didn't get much help from the CS last year, but I don't understand why he looks so hesitant to go after a ball carrier and more than anything else, *attack* the guy across from him. I hope he matures into a contributor, but I was disappointed in what I saw last night and this AM when I reviewed the footage on the DVR...
Did Scott do anything? Maybe after one preseason game we can declare him a waste of money also???? My point is that you can't judge a player on the first preseason game.
yeah everyone getting on Scott for not having 4 sacks and a TD need to relax. Perhaps he put Harris in a position to make plays? anyone think of that?
you my friend have hit the nail on the head! ghost is being paid way too much for his production level....maybe he should be asked to re-work his contract. at this point in his very short career he is way behind. guys that are picked #6 in the draft should contribute to the team right away, and i'm not saying be a star. i hope he does not become a bust..but my gut feeling says that is just what he is!
The Gholston bitching is absolutely ridiculous. No one's disputing that he should be further along in his development than where he is right now. But the situation is what it is. He was the only guy at # 6, 2 years ago who made sense value/need wise. You can whine about Mayo, but the fact is..most people considered his selection at #7 a reach and out of left field at the time. The reality of the situation is that some players take longer to develop than others. Gholston was a high-risk,High reward kind of selection. Those in the know realized that it was gonna take him awhile to become a full time starter(if ever at all). Why is this so hard to come to grips with? It's gonna be baby steps w/ this guy for a long, long time. He has a ton of talent, but the light needs to come on. He's actually come a long way from his rookie season. He's more decisive w/ his release off the snap,is starting to actually look toward the backfield while rushing...and he seems pretty comfortable w/ the short zone concepts. I liked what i saw from him w/ the first unit. He seemed to really enjoy being apart of the creative defensive looks and roles....and frankly I thought he fit in quite nicely. Unfortunately, w/ the second teamers we saw alot of straight up base defense type stuff...and he kind of lost some fire. It's gonna take time w/ this guy. Certain players need time to develop. Hopefully the light comes on sometime soon. And if it does, w/ his physical ability..look out.
people are bitching because we should have taken the best player available regardless of the positional needs of the team......new england does it every year. to take such a risk on a player in the top 10 picks in the draft is ridiculous. although we cant do it over, we would not have had to get scott in free-agency if we had drafted mayo, who was not a reach as far as ability and talent...he simply did not fit the need of many teams in the 1st round, so new england took the best player available so in the future they wouldnt have to replace a mlb if the situation had came about, and it did. our previous regime reached for a passrusher because they needed a pass rusher immediately... and it is biting us in the butt! i hate the idea of highly drafted project players. this concept should not be used in the first 3 rounds of the draft. especially when they are having to do things that they have not done too much of it previously in their careers in college. i hpoe he turns into lawrence taylor (based on his size strength and speed) but i do not think he ever will.
Every player drafted in the top 10 is a risk. Hindsight is 20/20 on Mayo. What about McFadden? Is he the player everybody thought he was? I would call his rookie season a bust also. How about Dorsey, Ellis, and Harvey? Take a look at their stats from last year and tell me if they were successfull. The only difference between those three and Gholston is that their coaches had the balls to play them while Mangini kept Gholston on the bench. How about Bryan Thomas? They guy had 6 1/2 career sacks after 4 years in the NFL and is averaging 3 sacks a year after 7 years in the NFL and he was a first round pass rushing OLB/DE? Let's let Gholston play before he is judged.
It's just the green tinted glasses. For years people made excuses for the MOAB (mother of all busts) Dwayne Robertson. He lasted one year in Denver and I think is now out of the league. What a peice of crap that was. That was the last "development project" as you recall....taking a player and teaching him new pro level techniques. Gholston is the same exact scenario. When we drafted him, bacause I don't know jack about college nor watch it, I had no idea he really was just a sack guy and nothing else. We've made these mistakes before. For better or worse, the guy will get to play while Pace is out so we'll know RIGHT AWAY whether he is even a servicable first round screw up like say, Bryan Thomas was.
By the way guys, saying that a guy taken in the top 6 might have never developed into a full time stater.....oy vey. HE BETTER BE A STATER FOR BEING TAKEN THAT HIGH AND GIVEN THAT MONSTER SALARY. I'm pretty sure Tannenbaum didn't envision him as a role player spending downs on the bench. I'm positive the coaching staff would not have made that move either, and I'm pretty sure they are "in the know" more than the armchair guys like us. Wow, a lot of crazy talk today.
Top 6 pick with no technique? Remember all the celebrating on draft day about how we stole him from the Pats, who traded down for Mayo? Think they'd swap ?
Again, you just have to love the people still trying to make excuses for Gholston..are they related to him or did they bet the farm on his stats?
The lack of patience being shown towards Gholston is his own fault. I think nearly every poster on this board would be willing to cut him all the slack in the world if he was showing ANYTHING at all to indicate that he could live up to his pre-draft billing. He hasn't and because of this people are willing to write him off, and I don't blame them. Going to an analogy with the team I know best, let's look at Eli Manning. His first few years were pretty damn bad (cue CKNY6 mentioning a friend that swore Eli Manning being on the team next year would result in him watching the Giants with "nothing more than detached interest"...and this was said during week 16 of the 2007 season) and many fans were upset about that. BUT, amongst the 4 INT performances and sub 60% completion percentages were flashes of potential. Starting with the gutsy audible that got him his first win in 2004 to his comeback against Denver in 2005, there were moments that gave Giants' fans hope. Gholston has giving many Jets' fans little reason to be optimistic. JetsFan pointed out that if he were not drafted and paid as a top 10 pick, he would have to fight to make the practice squad. It's true, Gholston has yet to have make one truly game-changing play. It can also be argued, and this is probably the perception of many, that the plays Gholston has made could/would have been made by any journeyman at the same position. I think this is Gholston's fault, he has heretofore done nothing to inspire confidence in any facet of the game. I also want to point out, just because your opinion of a player is negative does NOT make you any less of a fan. I am sure every poster on this board and every fan of the New York Jets would love nothing more than for Gholston to dominate. What people want and what people think, however, are different things. Until Gholston bridges that gap, I don't see much more optimism from the fanbase in his future.
JWWS- I agree the college draft is in essence a crapshoot, but the same mistake the Jets made on Drob they made again with Gholston. They were enamored with the pre-draft combine workouts. These workouts are like the whipped cream on top of the cake , they finish it off but no one should be buying just for the topping. We got suckered in by pre-draft buzz and in Gholston's case - workout warrior stats. Both of them had decent success in pretty major conferences(SEC/BIg 10) but both of them would disappear in games . They'd have one dominating game and then go away for a few weeks. Neither of these guys were worthy of top 10 picks , I'd even argue first rounders marginally. But having said that , but were/are talented players that needed the proper coaching to mold them. Drob , well its too late for him , but for Gholston I truly believe Ryan is the right coach for him. Not every player responds to the Parcells/Belicheck/Wannabe Mangini style , Gholston apparently was one of them - so yes Mangini's stubborness cost a year of valuable experience for Gholston. Can Ryan get more out of him - jury's still out , but he'll certainly put him in positions where he can sink or swim - you learn nothing about a player who's collecting splinters.
http://www.dewaynerobertson.com/ Does Gholston have a web site yet? I'm pretty sure it will end up like Dewayne's more sooner than later. It really is a great site, check it out. ***suspended indefinately like his career***
We took Robertson who the Pats supposibly wanted and he was a bust. We took Gholston who the Pats supposibly wanted and he is a bust. How hard are the Pats CS & FO laughing at us? Next guy the Pats want we need to let them have. Are they draft gurus or just lucky because we take out the trash first?
