Schottenheimer: Can He Mask the New York Jets' Weaknesses?

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  1. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    i can't believe i put Cavanaugh will become our starter instead of OC. I'm dumb. :lol:

    I'd like to see continuity, but if OCs change but the philosophy and playcalling don't I have no problem with it... if its successful i might add.
     
  2. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    It was all smoke and mirrors, but hey, what's wrong with smoke and mirrors? However, please do something ELSE with Brad Smith.
     
  3. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    That's okay. I knew what you meant.
     
  4. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand the article. We don't have a stronger oline for 2009 than we did for 2008, it is the same. And as of right now we have downgraded at WR with the loss of Coles and nobody having replaced him. We did get a power RB, and a potential franchise QB, but their impacts right away are not a sure thing. I don't see how the barrell is loaded for a bang in 2009... I'm down with Sanchez, but I don't expect a pro-bowl season out of him in 09.
     
  5. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    Rex is doing the smart thing.
    He knows that his genious lays on the defensive side of the ball and doesn't pretend to know everything.So he went and built himself a solid coaching staff with smart battle tested coaches on both sides of the ball and is going to let them do what they do best.
    He brought his right hand man in Pettine(?) to build this defense along with Scott and Leonard to ease the transition.
    Schotty and Cavenaugh should be good with the offense, and developing a young QB.
    Callahan is a superbowl coach with a wealth of talent at his disposal.
    Westhoff is arguably one of if not the best ST coach in ther league, and with LW and Leonard now in the fold he has unbelievable return men in his arsenal.

    If we look at just the coaching staff and compare this years to lasts we light years better then last season, as i can name a few games that were lost on coaching decisions(Pats at home anyone?)
    Add to that a much improved team on the field and we have a team that i think can compete in every game.
     
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  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    "It was a productive system until the Jets' opponents realized that they didn't have a legitimate down-field threat. Cornerbacks stopped respecting the accuracy of Favre's arm and challenged him to beat them deep."

    That was right on and is an even bigger problem this year with a rookie QB and no Coles. There is no doubt some new big time receiver will be coming in, just wondering who it will be.
     
  7. Gunther

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    Shows you how much speed is respected in this game.
    Don't get me wrong. A guy has to be a football player too, but there is no teaching speed.

    I thought the play calling was damn good when Schottenheimer first came here. The article makes sense.
     
  8. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    Schott's biggest challenge will be to stop defenses from stacking the box.

    If Clowney can emerge as a realistic deep threat (and one of our QB's can get the ball to him), it will help Schott a ton by keeping defenses honest.
    It's a lot easier to get creative once the defense has to remain loose.
     
  9. Tballlz63

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    thats where clemens really struggled, throwing an accurate deep ball. i'm hoping sanchez wins this competition from game 1 and he can develop chemistry with all our WR's.
     
  10. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Clemens struggled throwing an accurate short pass as well. Let's hope if he's our starter he will have fixed these issues.
     
  11. MobiusOne28

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    Good point, it looks at this point like Clowney is the key to how effective the offense is this year. Regardless of whether we're a run-centric team or not, his emergence would keep teams honest and leave them needing to keep a few guys back when he's on the field. Combine that with the known production from Cotch and the likely improvements by Stuckey and Keller and I think we have a pretty decent offense.

    However, like you said if he doesn't emerge, they stack the box, our running game is less effective, and our offense much less potent.
     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    On one side, Schotty looks like he has ample reason for his system not being successful, on the other side the sign of a brilliant coach is responding to adversity. So far, he is 0-3 when his offense meets adversity. Maybe he has been forced to do it one way when he wanted to do it another, but we don't have any proof of that. He certainly did not have an offensive line in 2007. I don't think he'll be getting any HC opportunities until he proves that 2006 wasn't a fluke or a product of trickery.
     
  13. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    i also don't like how the run is abandoned when the Jets are down by less than 6 points and there is a more than a quarter left to play.

    The Seattle game is a perfect example... the Jets should have run the ball 32 times. They ran it 19.
     
  14. WhiteShoeWillis

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    This has consistently been a problem, as has passing the ball in 3rd and 4th and very short situations. I'm hoping that Rex will force him out of this habit.
     
  15. ncjetfan

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    "It was a productive system until the Jets' opponents realized that they didn't have a legitimate down-field threat. Cornerbacks stopped respecting the accuracy of Favre's arm and challenged him to beat them deep."


    I totally agree with this notion. Coles was covered like a blanket whenever he tried to get deep. Favre went to him despite the fact and gave up numerous picks because of it. Coles will not be a big loss as he is in decline bad. Favre sucked and the team played tired down the stretch, with an unknown at qb and limited depth we should hope for 8-8.
     
  16. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    i hope it was more mangini than it was Schotty.
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    That game killed it for me with the CS. They had been having trouble without a physical running presence, so in the Seattle game they started handing the ball off to Tony Richardson early on - and it worked. And then they abandoned that, too. Instead of using a combination of Richardson for short yards, and TJ and Leon in a true RBBC, they abandoned it altogether. That's unforgivable.
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    We can only hope that is truly the case, and not just a blanket-scapegoating of Mangini.
     
  19. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Or how about when they try to outsmart lesser opponents like they did against the Chiefs.
     
  20. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    one thing this article did remind me of was how creative the offense actually was in 06. if this staff can develop the young talent this team has we could be in for some fun. obviously its a very big if, but they have all the ingredients for a great offense.
     

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