Amazed!!hmy: As it stands right now... 417 votes Yes-85% would trade Jones for Edwards No-15% Its a matter of opinion I know , but I had no idea that so many people here would be willing to part with TJ for an underperforming WR. Edwards is where TJ was in '07.
TJ for edwards would be a steal for us. no way cle gives up a young talented wr for an oldrb whos overated
I'm not buying this age thing with TJ , hes old in numbers only. Last season I thought he looked really good and expect if he stays to only add to that.
If you don't want to buy his age, that's fine, but you're going up against an awful lot of history. I'll take the physical freak who is still young and can be a dominant wide receiver. Jones is not a dominant runningback, he never has been, he wasn't last year, and he'll never be. That's fine, he's still a good player. But Edwards can be a gamebreaker. Cleveland would be plain stupid to move Edwards for Jones straight up.
Whats everyones obesseion with edwards ? He's a softy with very inconsistant hands i rather trade T.J. and a 1st or 2nd for someone better. I rather get Bolden.
He's also 6'5" big and fast, and he had a year two years ago like no Jets receiver has had in recent years, I believe. Jones is a 31 year old runningback in a league chock full of em. If you're not elite, the difference between backs 10 and 30-40 is not particularly large.
Personally, I like Edwards because he's so young, talented, and he spent 1 year as a rookie, 1 year as a tremendous receiver, and 1 year as a pass dropper. His problems are very fixable, and this guy is going to be a force in the NFL for years. He has gameplan changing talent. If we can get him for a guy whose effectively already been replaced, I'd say that's a major improvement to our particular offense.
if you wanna make a deal like this, who is your every-down back? the rook? not saying he cant.. but if he that's the case, the team is going nowhere
on the surface, the trade would just move the question mark from our passing game to our running game. right now, add a good blocking TE and our tri-fecta of leon, greene, and jones plus our OL gives us the BEST running game in the AFC. But, we have ??? in our passing game with Sanchez, Stuckey, Smith, Clowney, Crotch, Keller. making the trade adds more certainty to our passing game but adds a big ? to our running game. with Rex a believer in the need for a top tier 'run it down your throat offense' untill you cry 'daddy', it's hard to imagine Rex giving away so much in the run dept, espically knowing this is his first year as coach AND having a rookie QB. just don't see it happening. plus, i'd like to see sanchez and our untested receivers 'grow old together'. has there ever been a time when a team replaced their pro bowl QB with a college rookie AND filled the #1 receiver void with untested practice squad fodder? should be fun to watch. anyone know how good sanchez's play action game is?
I kinda want to make the trade, I agree that the problems Edwards has can generally be coached out, and that Jones' stock may never be higher than it is right now, therefore you make the trade...BUT...we are going into a season with a rookie qb (or one who hasn't done a great deal when he's played) and are going to be run heavy. Therefore, I believe we are better served keeping Jones and getting a top WR in the draft next year (we can trade up for one after all, we're actually getting quite good at that). UNLESS we are sure Greene will be the real deal from week one...in which case make the trade. I appear to have gone round in a circle...oops.
I don't know what rumors you're seeing, but the closest I've seen to that is when people said if the Jets were to somehow cut TJ, that Cleveland would pick him up in a minute. I'd be SHOCKED if they did a straight up deal. Shocked. And I would lose respect for ManKok.
A holdout good but not great RB on the wrong side of 30(When we have 2 highly talented RB's aside from him) for a young potential #1 WR badly in need of a change of scenery? That's highway robbery and a no brainer.
I honestly think Mangini would do it. Why? He comes from that Parcells/BB tree that says aside from the obvious on field performance, players like TJ hold additional value in the first year of a regime as they are one of his "Guys" that helps set the tone for what Mangini expects.A prime example of this was exactly what happend on draft day. 3 back-ups to swap 12 draft spots straight up. Thing is..Mangini places additional and often excessive value on those back-ups b/c they know his system, and they know what he expects. If he can rid himself of someone who ISN'T one of his "Guys" and is creating a disruption...all the better. Oddly enough Mangini would consider it a steal on his end.
everyone thinks that he will make their new favorite guy mark sanchez better than he is. in actuality edwards is an enigma. he isnt that good, his lack of determination and care far outweigh his physical ability and he will not be a great jet. but everyone on here is drinking kool aid and making the team through madden. so of course they are going to want to get rid of the guy they think we no longer need for a guy who we dont need. i cant wait for the season so that everyone can stop with the fanboy stuff and concentrate on football. there is nothing worse than a bunch of people with completely unrealistic aspirations.
if that deal is available, take it and never look back. There are enough decent free agent guys still available to fill the gap for this year.
We don't need a potential # 1 WR under the age of 30?? Face it, Edwards has had his problems in Cleveland but he's a tremendous talent that has shown glimpses of brilliance. There arent many of those guys available for an aging player who may or may not be holding out who the statistics say is due for a HUGE drop in production.
I agree. I wonder, however, if the Jets are thinking if Burress does not go to jail (how can they know that at this point?), and He's fully recuperated from the shot, and He can be picked up at a reasonable cost (meaning less than Edwards), then Wouldn't the Jets rather make that deal? The problem is the unknowable at this point, that is whether Burress would actually be available. A healthy and available Burress would be preferable. But the Jets can't hold out for that...
Plaxico Burress happens to be one of if not my fav. non jet in the NFL off the field aside(I'm a Michigan state fan). Consequently I don't much care for Braylon Edwards w/ his Maze and Blue past. W/ all that said, I believe Edwards is far better for this team. Why? 1. Burress has been away from football for over a year now, and at his age stands as nothing more than a "Quick fix"...and frankly w/ his size and playing style he is injury prone and at his age he could be one injury away from retirement or major deteriation in performance. 2. Edwards is a potential fix for a longtime problem spot for this franchise. He has at least 8 more years and doesnt have the same injury risks that burress does. 3. Giving up TJ for Edwards could be a blessing in disguise. TJ again, is on the wrong side of 30 and is conceveably holding out. Removing that potential disruption, the cap hit and the notion of him becomming "dead weight" in the next couple years is a rather attractive option, IMO.
