I think the thing that plays in Sanchez and the Jets favor is the type of team he's coming to. We're not the Detroit Lions, we already have a playoff caliber team in place. We have a TON of talent on defense and we've got some playmakers on offense to go with an outstanding offensive line. And outside of a few positions on both sides of the ball (namely LG, RT and the whole defensive line) we're a pretty young team. I know that the stat about QBs failing is pretty alarming but he's brought into the perfect environment to succeed. Not saying he's gonna be Peyton Manning but I like his chances to be very very successful in NY
Obrien was not better than chad and he was not more successful. He could not move. Got sacked 60+ times. He holds the record for the most yards thrown without scoring ONE rushing TD. Is it possible to play that longs and not score once???
I'd put Vinny and Chad above O'Brien, and that's just isolating Vinny's Jet career. I loved O'Brien and he should be in the conversation, but I'd put him behind those guys. Not sure about Todd, maybe behind Todd, too.
The Jets really don't have a bad history of drafting QBs, we just never had the team or line to back them up. Pennington and O'Brien were both good picks. O'Brien gets labeled a bust because we drafted him before Marino and Marino is a hall-of-famer. O'Brien was a good QB though; if Marino got drafted by the Jets instead he might have been better, but we wouldn't have won any super bowls and he wouldn't be in the hall. Todd wasn't a terrible QB either. Complain about mismanagement all you want, but as a franchise we've yet to draft a bust QB in the first round.
Agreed. We've also brought in quality QBs from other teams. We've mentioned Vinny, also Boomer and Favre were former league MVPs, O'Donnell was fresh off starting a Super Bowl. We've generally had quality at the position, that's why I get annoyed when people say we haven't had a good QB since Namath.
A new part of our QB history has been to let a QB go on the cheap and have them come back and beat the guy we gave up for them. Here is hoping Ratliff doesn't continue this part of our history. Since everyone knows he is so much worse then Sanchez and all
Pennington's still a good QB but the Dolphins aren't as good a team as their record implies. They're the Jets of '06 - new coach, new motivation, they found a gimmick and they exploited it. Then look what happened in the playoffs. The fins will regress. Don't stay up at night worrying about Ratliff either. If he ever gets the chance to start, I guarantee you he'll turn out to be Derek Anderson II.
Obrien was better, no doubt - better size better arm and TOUGH - yes he got sacked a few times but he got up, brushed off the turff stains and got back into the huddle. If you want to argue stats - pehaps Obrien will lead in total yards/TDs after all is said and done - Chad will lead in percentages and less INTS but if I had my choice KB would be on my team simple because he would have been the best of the 2 to lead the Jets to the SB. That '86 year would have been possible if KB and other key players didn't succumb to injuries.
Vinny was probably one of the best QB prospects ever, he never really lived up to the hype he had coming out of college but he did end up having a nice career and he got better with age. Unfortunately he had only the one great year for us. Chad also had the one great year for us, other then those two years though, can you really say any other Qb had a great year since Namath? You never know with QB prospects but I do think he has a good chance. Mainly because he has a great head on his shoulders, talent doesn't mean anything if you waste it with a poor work ethic. Sanchez is driven to succeed and I has great leadership qualities, that is the main thing I am looking for in a QB. Hopefully he stays injury free, that is the key. I also like the fact that he is coming to a team that has a pretty good Oline and running game, that is extremely helpful for a young QB.
The article you are referring may be from a Fox Sports Blog: http://community.foxsports.com/blog...ecting_QB_success_not_necessarily_a_crapshoot
^ that is one awesome formula. 5 people in group 1 were true busts. Group 2 is almost split in half... group 3 is scarily accurate.
I appreciate well thought-out and informative posts, such as this. I read this board every day, and rarely post. But reading your comments made me want to say: Thank You and Agreed. Well done sir.
I think Sanchez is a great pick. He can be the focal point/face of the franchise, that every one rallies behind. We now need to continue to build around him and give him the tools he needs....Braylon Edwards??!!
He got sacked more than a few. Absolutely refused to throw the ball away. He had a very good arm. Im not saying he wasnt good -- he was -- but he was probably the most immobile qb of all time. It was just amazing.
that's what fascinates me too. It could be that fact that those kids had it too easy at their respective colleges in terms of talent surrounding them, and the team that they went to in the draft which were terrible teams, and the most non-measurable of them all - the intangibles that make a great QB. No one can measure maturity, confidence, charisma, and will to succeed. its almost like a "too good to be true" blemish is on those 3 QBs. and they were. Sanchez is a point away from being around Rothlisberger, a two time SB champion... good.
It's hard to say with Leinart - if he gets his head out of his ass he has the ability not to be a bust. Couch might not have been a bust either if he didn't end up in such a terrible system and get injured. Alex Smith.. I got nothing.
No. The article is from The Sporting News April 13, 2009 print edition. It is called "The Odds are Even. Getting it right with a first-round quarterback is a less than 50-50 proposition- which means one, maybe two of these can't miss QBs (Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman) will. Why is this so hard anyway? It goes on to discuss why young QBs fail in a lengthy article (9 pages): Here is the list of why they fail: 1)Placed too much emphasis on size and arm strength and not enough on passing skills (sound familiar Jet fans?) 2) Lacked NFL caliber arm strength 3) Couldn't stay healthy 4) Was a better athlete than QB 5) Didn't show the work ethic to improve his game 6) Didn't become a consistent passer despite having the physical tools to do so
