When you have a QB situation as unsettled as ours that is exactly what is happening. The Jets cannot be taken seriously as a contender with so much uncertainty at the most important position on the field. Given that situation, trading multiple picks for a WR would be a terrible idea.
Shit man, if we escape the draft with Kenny Britt and Shonn Greene that'd be incredible. If we get those 2 AND Gilbert....jeez This might be the year we take a different approach to the draft (trade back instead of up) And yeah, I totally forgot about Bryant Johnson and Jeff Blake it makes a lot more sense now how Boldin put up those numbers. BOLDIN = OVERRATED!
Don't worry. Something will happen to seriously disappoint us. Every year I enter the draft with a dozen different scenarios that I'd be happy with. Most years? They end up going in a direction that baffles and upsets me. Still, the past few years have been an improvement.
For the most part, I think we can all be pretty satisfied with how recent drafts have turned out. The 06 and 07 drafts went really well for us, and 08 has been ok thus far (will be great if Rex kicks Gholston's ass and he performs this year)
We dont need this. He's a similar receiver to the one's we already have or had. He's a big physical receiver but lacks great speed. Not worth a 1st and 3rd rounder. Plus we nearly killed this guy and now where gonna give up the bank for him? I'll pass.
The Favre trade, my mistake...So one late 3rd comp. pick...Big deal, those 2 players combined wouldn't be as good as Boldin.
I am only comparing him to the last two years, to make the point that playing across from a better player, he still has not put up much different numbers than a guy we already have on the roster.
Boldin....Double covered...So...playing across from LJ who is presumably the guy teams worry about...He puts up Cotchery like numbers...AND YOU THINK HE'LL BE BETTER, PLAYING ACROSS FROM JC?
Boldin had 1377 yards as a ROOKIE without Fitzgerald or any other quality recievers and with Jeff Blake and Josh McCown throwing to him. He can get it done on his own just fine- the Cardinals just have a lot of recieving talent and the ball gets spread around between their top 3.
Good point. Yes, Boldin plays opposite LJ who draws double coverage, but looking only at his total yards is deceiving since Breaston is also one of if not the best #3 in the league, having over a thousand yards as well, which no doubt cut into Boldin's total yardage. I feel pretty ambivalent about the move, though. I don't agree with the sentiment that "Our Qb's suck, why get a good wideout?" for two reasons. One is that I don't think it a foregone conclusion that Clemens or Ratliff will suck. More important and second is that whoever plays Qb for the Jets will need help at receiver, and right now the Jet corps of wideouts is mediocre. It's frankly the weakest unit on the team if you put aside the question marks at Qb. An additional threat at wideout not only will help Cotch and Keller but the running game, which the Jets want to use alot. Another point is that although I am not much for following the college game I gather there's not likely to be a lot of options in the draft for getting help at wideout right away. That argues for picking up a vet, and Boldin does seem to be the best available option for that. On the other hand Boldin has a few question marks about him. He's been unavailable to play a full quarter of both of the last two seasons. Of course the last season was thanks to Smith, but... The guy's not the most durable player out there. He's played six seasons. Only 28, but on the other hand how much longer will he play? Yet another point made here is also worth taking into account - draft picks, even high ones, don't always pan out. Far from it, particularly if you are the Jets. Boldin is a proven talent, by comparison. I guess what it boils down to is I would prefer the deal not be as much as a first and a third. Maybe a first and a player? But if the Jets make this move, at least they won't have to hold their breath for draft day to fill a huge hole on the roster. I will feel good but not great if such a move occurs.
I agree with this post. Boldin's recent injury history should concern anyone, but when I think about having a WR corps of Boldin and Cotch, 2 sure-handed possession receivers, a burner like Clowney and a solid slot guy like Stuckey rounding it out, plus Keller? I think that would be a nice situation for a young QB to emerge into. In my mind, Boldin is an elite wideout in the prime of his career. I'd give a first and a third easily for that over a couple of gambles in the draft.
Very good analysis. I too am on the fence over this deal. The other thing to consider is Boldin's insistence on a long term deal and whether the Jets are prepared to pay him what he wants. While he is still under contract for two more years, he has constantly bitched about his present deal. We don't want or need that kind of distraction.
Yeah, Boldin is not a perfect solution, another factor as you note being he is not the deep threat that would be optimal. But, given the available options, he might be the best way to go.
While the Jets would no doubt prefer he not insist on a long term contract, it's not atypical for a vet coming to a new team to renegotiate a current contract. The long term part of it could be problematic, but it's going to be the combination of the numbers and other provisions that will make a total package either good or not so much.
2003 was his first season and Fitzgerald didn't arrive until the following year. He put up almost 1400 yards and 8 TD's his rookie year without Fitzy. Cotch has yet to break 1200 yards or 6 TD's in his career. Boldin did it as a rookie with no Fitzgerald and Jeff Blake throwing him the ball. His numbers have been consistently better than Cotch and if you watch him play you can see that he's a step up. The comparison is weak.
Boldin is a great talent but Im not sure if he should be thrown in the mix with a young Qb. I would actually prefer to keep both of our picks and try to get a receiver that can grow with Kellen or Ratliff as opposed to possibly bringing in a cry baby who could cause turmoil on the offense. Boldin could be a great trade but it could also backfire as well.
The nice part is that it appears our FO is giving consideration to each of the available options, but seems committed to not paying more than it feels comfortable. They balked at the 2nd rounder for Austin, are reportedly not serious contenders for Boldin given the 1st and 3rd as payment, and don't seem to want to meet Edwards' salary demands. They seem confident going into the draft that they can meet the need while preserving value if they can't get anything done. As far as your earlier post, nicely done. I agree that we're unlikely to find immediate help at the position in the draft, at least not help comparable to what we've considered in FA. However, I do think that there are worse things that can happen than to plug a rookie in there and rotate him in with Clowney to see what we have there, especially if Brett ends up winning the QB spot.
That's the main issue I have with Boldin. While I don't think there is a receiver in the game who could have taken a hit like that and not been injured, it's a significant chink in Boldin's armor. I see Boldin as the wide receiver version of Brandon Jacobs. Is Jacobs one of the best commodities in the NFL right now? Absolutely. But for how long? His physical style of play dictates a short career.
