you can't really campare washington to turner. turner is 6'1" 240 lbs. completely different back. and i'd take turner over washington for the mere belief that he'll be more durable... again, i don't think you can compare the past 3 or four years, because the charger's have that other guy that was the back of all backs thru those years, with the exception of last season. even washington would not have gotten as much playing time as sproles, when you have a tomlinson in his prime!!!!
^ Tomlinson was played hurt all last year, so Leon would have gotten the same amount of playing time. Look into the Chargers RB situation last year. You'll find out why Sproles got the contract he did. and stop using so many !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's a weak argument, you said Leon wasn't a 1200 yard back 'up to this point' and the main reason for that is he hasn't been given the workload. That was the comparison, not their size or playing style. At the time the Falcons signed Turner, the same had been true. Neither you nor I know what Leon can do as a feature back, but judging by his results in limited action, it doesn't really favor your argument.
there is nothing wrong with a player trying to make an impact on an organization.. unless he is asking for 6 million to do so, and isn't worth it..
i think your putting too much stock into the uncapped year, as if it's going to happen and all teams are going to be able to spend freely. it's not set up that way. there are still guidelines setup to prevent a redskins type spending spree. and i'm very aware of the salary cap going up every year. it still does not mean 8 mill a year for a line backer is a lot of cake, he better play like 8 mill a year or the jets screwed the pooch.
did i say that??.. no.. im saying with what leon has shown.. there is no reason why we should throw 5-6 million dollars a season his way right now.. if a player is worth it.. pay them.. if not.. dont.. simple as that..
Are we talking rushing yards or total yards? Look at how much Leon gains by returning kicks and look at the difference that makes in a game. Even the ones he doesn't bring to the house set us up beyond our 40, sometimes he puts us in the red zone, like the San Diego game.
Even as a part-time back, I find him more valuable to the total-team contribution than TJ. Not that I hate TJ, but I just like Leon that much more.
I love Leon and want them to pay him, but there's no way he's worth LT money right now. Give him a nice contract and if he exceeds it like he has his current deal then re-up.
I took it to mean the same thing in that he's looking to have the same kind of impact as Sayers. I have no problem with a comment like that.
well you did say that. There were no implications about position or value to a team. And to counter your argument, i'm not retyping anything. See posts: 44, 50, 52, 59, 60, 68, 69, and 70 in this thread. and 89.
your first point has all the same if's i gave. we don't know how he'll hold up. little guys having 3oo lb'ers jumping and throwing themselves at you will absolutely wear a player down. towards the end of the game and as the season wears on. i can't see why thats a weak argument, logical is more like it. your second point doesn't mention tomlinson. jets did not have a back with that skill. it's likely, washington would not get near the playing time he has with the jets if a tomlinson were on the team during these past seasons. i think your points are weaker, or you just left your green glasses on by mistake.....
No, all the Jets had was a coaching staff that refused to give much playing time to it's most dynamic player. Leon wouldn't ned to carry the entire load just like Warrick Dunn was not forced to carry the entire load in Tampa. They are very similar players, with the exception of Leon being about twice as fast.
I'd offer Leon another contract right now if I had the power. I'm a big fan of Leon's and I think he is one of the most under rated players in the league. 5 years worth $22.5 million. If he plays better and progresses then we can re-up on him again.
i guess we're about to find out this season if washington is worth the cake and can hold up throughout a full season with a heavier workload. that is if the front office follows thru with their plans of using leon more.. personally, i don't think he'll hold up, especially if they use him more as a featured back. jmho
I'm not putting any stock in an uncapped year. Sounds like you're putting too much stock in some sort of inevitable low performance for Leon. Of course Scott had better play like 8 million a year. Every team takes a risk signing a guy to a big contract. You seem to be arguing that it's not worth that risk to sign a player who commands big money. Even the Pats, with their team of role players, had 3 guys hitting the cap for more than that last season.
