D dept. : ?Hidden? Defensive Stats ~ ~ ~

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  1. kelly

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  2. Zach

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    So it becomes rather evident that 1) Coleman is nothing but JAG. 2) Serviceable backup NT is a must.

    I'd go with Tyson Jackson with 1st, and Ron Brace with 3rd, with either OT or WR in 2nd.
     
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    It will be interesting to compare these numbers to next year's numbers and see the results of an attacking defense compared to a read-react defense. I am guessing the numbers go up based on scheme alone.
     
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    Yeah so to those in the DE thread who claim certain posters know nothing about how a 3-4 works.... explain to me why the top 2 QB hitters on the club were both DL.... And then you have the "sturdy and serviceable" Kenyon Coleman with as many hits as David Barrett.... Upgrade please.

    Remember kids: A 34 lineman is allowed to push the pocket. Yes, it's true.
     
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  5. J-Kay

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    We'd be lucky to get Brace in the 2nd

    1st - Hakeem Nicks, WR, UNC
    2nd -Ron Brace, NT, NC or Jarron Gilbert, DE, SJSU
    3rd - Chris Baker, NT, Hampton or Ricky Jean-Francois, DE, LSU
     
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    That would be funny if we had another Chris Baker on the team. But we just signed Douglass, so I don't think we will get another NT (even though I think it would be a good idea too draft one this year or next year)
     
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    Because Mangini only rushed 3. He is an awful coach when it comes to coaching.
     
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    Here is a real simple explanation:

    http://football.calsci.com/DefensiveLine3.html

    In the 3-4 system, the linebackers are expected to make most of the plays. In the 3-4 system, the DTs play a more physical game as they are taking on one or two offensive linemen directly, play after play. Unlike the DTs in the 4-3, the DTs in the 3-4 are responsible for every single gap in the offensive line. Although the DTs get relatively few chances to make tackles or sack the quarterback, anything bad that happens is still ultimately their fault.

    In the 3-4, you have four linebackers. Two of these guys are inside linebackers, and are expected to weigh roughly 240 pounds and be quite athletic. You also have two outside linebackers. These guys are sometimes called "tweeners," as they are in between the normal size of defensive ends and linebackers. These guys should weigh perhaps 255-265 pounds and also be quite athletic. Because these are linebackers, they tend to be faster than the heavier defensive ends. Their presence makes it much more difficult for the quarterback to roll out, as he will be rolling out directly into the path of one of these linebackers.
     
  9. Jake

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    Okay for the last time I know how a 3-4 works..... I know all of this...... You're all defending Coleman saying he doesn't have to do anything other than control his gap (and I know that's his job), which he barely does, but he could do more and that's my point. There are 3-4 DEs out there who can do more than just control their gap. Let's get one.

    Please spare me the football 101 links.
     
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    Will someone please call Richard Seymour and tell him he is only supposed to control his gap. Last time Kellen saw him he was pushing his helmet through his sternum.
     
  11. Jake

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    Hahahahahah no shit eh.

    Bellychicken: WTF are you doing in the backfield Richard?! Take a seat you f*ckin' retard!

    Seymour: But I made a play coach, I got to the QB!

    Bellychicken: Know your role and shut your mouth. You're on film duties for the rest of the game!
     
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    Lol, well put.
     

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