Coaches who have worked closely with Ryan say that Gholston is lucky. He has a new coach who puts his players in position to do what they do best. If Gholston is a down end who rushes the backfield and pursues the ball, if that is what he does foremost, that is what he will do, Ryan's peers say. And if that is all Gholston can do, that is how he will be used, as a situational player in Ryan's schemes, they insist wow what a novel concept.i wonder if any other coaches ever thuoght of that
So who's the nameless Jet quoted in this article? My money is on Kerry R. Anyone have any other suspects in mind?
Too much is made of combine performances (Glolston, D Robertson) and not enough emphasis on whether the prospect is a "football player"! Tom K
Believe it or not I think Gholston is gonna turn it around, he really had a lot of changes in his first year and I think this is the year he gets on the field and becomes a beast hes seriously to good not too. We need very good leadership and to keep his confidence up.
21 million guaranteed If the Ghost doesn't have the inner drive to become a great player, that's gonna be an easy 21 million bucks to earn. He can retire on that easy and not improve at all. He just doesn't seem to have the fire that the guys on the elite defenses have. Right now, it looks like the Jets will get burned twice this decade with combine warriors in D-Rob and The Ghost.
whoever said it, I'm glad they did. if anyone saw Hard Knocks on HBO - TE Coach John Garrett was on Martellus Bennett 24/7 and kept him motivated and ready to go... we took the biggest pussy in the land, Bob Sutton, and made him the LB coach of this team. Anyway, he needs that kind of coaching... someone on him all the time, all. the. time... Its the only way he'll begin to develop the mindset necessary to play his position. He needs to stop being a vagina.
he was known for being a pure offensive threat before that. In my heart, I don't want to label him as that. Interesting story... after Gholston pick I call my friend who couldn't watch the combine about what the Jets might do at 36... I told him that Curtis Lofton is someone we may be looking at, as well as Philip Merling.... but don't forget Dustin Keller out of Purdue as a pass catching threat........... next thing I know the Jets traded up and took Keller. I left a message on his phone saying "remember that Keller kid? He's ours. I can't believe I called that" I wish he kept the message, i would have turned it into a wav file and posted it on here.
Granted, Gholston's first season was very poor. He and Glen Dorsey (who also sucked) are the two biggest busts of the 2008 first round. But to all those calling Gholston a "workout warrior", don't forget the kid had a great college career. He was an All America DE, second nationally with 14 sacks his junior year, and had over 30 stops behind the line of scrimmage in a 3 year career. He was a finalist for the Ted Hendricks award given to the nations top DE. Gholston's team, Ohio State, made it to the National Championship game his last two years. I'd say all of that qualifies him as an excellent college player.
"no problem with any of those feelings." I think VG meant he did not disagree with the assessment... not that he didn't care. I think he is taking ownership of the piss-poor first year and will work hard to improve.
There were about a dozen teams using something similar to the combine, actually two separate event structures, in the late 70's. Those teams saw some real value in measuring the quantifiable assets that a player had and looking at them in relation to the stats he actually put up in college in order to rank him on their charts. Some of those teams were good and some were bad. Some had good mangement teams and some had bad management teams. Then the NFL setup a league-wide combine so that everybody would have access to the same numbers in making their decisions. This was a huge step backwards for the NFL and contributed more to the lack of parity in the league than anything else during the 80's. Good management teams are good at picking players and evaluating the talent to begin with and furnishing them with additional numbers just solidifies their talent acquisition process. Bad management teams suck at evaluating players and giving them a further set of numbers to throw into the mix just screws them up more, because not only can they now misidentify talent based on private workouts and numbers put up in college but they also have an additional way to screw up by heavily weighting raw quantifiables in a way that is completely irrelevant to performance. None of this has to do a lot with Vernon Gholston, because his stats and his numbers both said he should be a fairly high pick, but it's important to note that there are no numbers that an NFL prospect can put up at the combine that should raise his stock from where it stood going in. If the guy was an average player in college he's going to be a bad player in the NFL most of the time. If he was a good player in college he's probably going to be average in the NFL. Ideally the only way a player would rise in the draft based on the combine is as his peers fell around him based on bad combine results. That's how the combine would be of value as a sorting mechanism. DeWayne Robertson was a second round pick. Period. That combine just screwed the hell out of us because our management at the time did not understand football or football talent at remotely the level they thought they did.
Kinda sez it all doesn't it.. I'm sure he would thrive under Mangina up in Cleveland. I really don't think this kid has the "it" factor in him. He already got his cash and it seems that personal pride has no part in his makeup so I'm not sure you can motivate The Ghost. Not only is he missing as a player, he doesn't even have any pride in himself and you can't coach pride..
Hehe. Heeheeha. Hooheehooha. HAHAHAHA! Talk about your Freudian slips. EDIT: Damn it. Beaten to the punch. Knife. Whatever.
