Super Bowl XLIII: Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Arizona Cardinals

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  1. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    So wait if your saying the play was still ongoing why did the officials give the ball to Pitt at the 1 yard line? Their explanation was it was after the play. Which way is it?
     
  2. Barry the Baptist

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    ^ I don't really care I won 180 bucks on the safety +900 baby but it was a garbage play by a guy who quite honestly was the reason the Steelers won. I have to say though if I'm the Arizona offensive lineman that dove at Harrison's knees while he was long gone my ass is horse collar tackling his ass. Take the penalty and end the half. My guess is the reason he didn't is because of that rule that's semi enforced.
     
  3. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    I think "heinous" is an overreaction here. He punched a guy in pads, and shoved him to the ground. It's not like the guy could've gotten injured from this. Haynesworth face stomping a guy with his helmet off is heinous. This is just some asshole losing his temper. I can see the argument for throwing him out of the game, but suspending him to start next season? Get real.
     
  4. Barry the Baptist

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    I didn't hear that either.... two plays by Warner tonight show the "Tuck Rule" was invented to screw Al Davis. Maybe it's me but coaches should not lose challenges by proving the idiots in stripes wrong. It wouldn't have mattered because the Cards couldn't challenge anyway but maybe that rule should be changed as well. I don't know maybe if you are correct you get an extra challenge that can only be used in the event you have no timeouts or inside 2 minutes. Seems that the league was pretty hasty in letting the Steelers kneel down there.
     
  5. Baumeister

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    If this was a Jets player everybody would have no problem with this play. Players are dirty in the nfl the SB is no exception.:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::breakdance::breakdance:
     
  6. Barry the Baptist

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    What I wanna know is why the flag isn't thrown the second he threw the punch, he throws 2 punches and throws a guy by the thorax to the ground before the flag comes in. I wish you could hear the whistle so we could see how late after the play he's continuing to play like a punk.
     
  7. Barry the Baptist

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    If this was a Jets player he would have been ejected so it's a moot point
     
  8. Yisman

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    good point, actually. The penalty occurred during AND after the play, so it should have been assessed before Pittsburgh got possession.


    By the way, there appears to be video evidence of Harrison's elbow being down before the ball broke the plane.
     
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  9. Barry the Baptist

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    Very interesting.... now am I imagining things or when they did the zoom shot of the Holmes TD and they zoomed in on the ball is it me or was the ball moving?
     
  10. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    Calm down guys before you embarass yourselves and end up like those lunatic Rams fans that were posting clips about how the refs cheated the Rams and showing evidence of "clear penalties" that weren't called 5 years after the fact.

    The Steelers/Seahawks game was an embarassment but you guys are really grasping at straws on this one.
     
  11. Yisman

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    my initial reaction was that it didn't approach XL and I still don't think it's as bad as XL, however, there is video evidence that shows that the Cardinals should have maintained possession due to the Harrison mugging.

    Even if you don't think he should've been ejected, the refs completely blew the call by allowing the Steelers to keep the ball.
     
  12. Barry the Baptist

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    Apparently Chris Chase agrees that the officiating was bad, I don't know who Chris Chase but Yahoo posted his blog on the front. He mentions nothing of the Harrison thugery and goes on about the fact the last play wasn't reviewed. But I think he is reaching by saying the Steelers should have been penalized on the Holmes TD because Holmes celebrated the TD by using the ball as a prop. Anyway here is the article....

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/sh...es-Super-Bowl-XLIII-to-unrevie?urn=nfl,138123

    It will go down as one of the most thrilling Super Bowls of all time. But, as has become all too common in the NFL, an officiating controversy threatens to overshadow the stellar play on the field.

    On the final Cardinals play from scrimmage, as the team was driving for a potential game-winning score, Kurt Warner turned over the ball after his arm was hit by LaMarr Woodley. The play was ruled a fumble, and it may have been. Or it may have been an incomplete pass. The problem is, there was no official replay review to take a closer look at the ruling. Instead, the Steelers got the ball, knelt down for the win and earned the sixth title in franchise history.

    Frankly, it's remarkable that there was no booth challenge to review the play. It was certainly close enough to warrant a look from upstairs. In all probability, the call on the field would have been confirmed. But why not appease the masses and nip any talk of controversy in the bud? (If the call had been overturned, Arizona would have had the ball on the Pittsburgh 29-yard line, certainly close enough to have had a reasonable shot at scoring a last-second touchdown.)

    It was a night marred by questionable calls, but the game managed to make everyone forget about the disparity in penalties (106 yards for the Cardinals against just 56 for the Steelers) with its thrilling finish. And then came the unreviewed call. It's especially interesting that the play went without a second look considering the Cardinals correctly challenged two plays during the game (both of which should have been easy calls on the field but were botched by the refs).

    The 11 penalties whistled on Arizona included a preposterous roughing the passer penalty on a play that wouldn't have been uncommon in touch football. That came on a drive that saw two personal foul penalties on the Cards, one of which gave the Steelers another chance to score from the goal line. For the evening, 18 penalties were called, the third-most in Super Bowl history. A missed call may have proven enormous also. After Santonio Holmes' game-winning touchdown catch he did an imitation of LeBron James' chalk move. Using the ball as a prop is an automatic 15-yard penalty on the kickoff.

    Officiating controversies became way too prevalent in this league this season. Ed Hochuli's premature whistle dominated headlines in the early season and a missed delay of game penalty in the divisional playoffs aided in a Baltimore Ravens win. It's too bad a great Super Bowl followed down that path and may be marred by a decision that would have been easily remedied by a simple booth review.
     
  13. nyjunc

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    Did anyone notice the bad call on the first Fitz TD? When he went to the ground the ball hit the ground, it should have been ruled incomplete but it wasn't. bad calls happened for both teams but they should have taken their time and reviewed that last play.
     
  14. Don

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    No doubt the referees ended the year on the same note they started it on and the more I see the replays of that last "fumble" I am convinced it should have been ruled an incomplete pass. The mere fact that long after the game the head of referees "says" it was reviewed in the booth is a testament to how bad the call really was. There is no way in the world the game doesn't stop and that play doesn't get reviewed in any other game ever played. Just this one. It's the whole reason the rule is there, so playes like that with under two minutes always get reviewed.
     
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    Thought so too, but he had his hand under it after i saw it again.
     
  16. nyjunc

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    His hand was undre it but the nose hit the ground, the receiver has to have total control. The ball cannot move at all or hit the ground at all and a good portion of the ball landed on the ground. there was more than enough evidence to overturn it had Pitt challenged.
     
  17. Jetcane

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    I once witnessed a fight outside a bar that looked like that.
     
  18. jetzIII

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    Cardinals got robbed throughout the whole game..
    Everybody wanted the Steelers to win and the refs helped them
    out..
     
  19. Murrell2878

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    The ball is allowed to hit the ground, but if it does it cannot move. This was a rule they put in after the 1999 NFC Championship Game
     
  20. bpjets

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    Very true....and these are the best refs the NFL has????
     

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