Hall of Fame winners to be announced on Monday

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    As, everyone knows Ricky Henderson will be an easy winner. The only question as this article asks is how close to unanimous his selection will be. That brings us to the others and I was reading this article and became flabbergasted that Blyleven has been left out for so many years. The two paragraphs I read that were a jaw dropper to me are these.

    "In his first eight seasons (1970-77), Blyleven made 82 quality starts in which he either lost or got a no-decision (and by quality start, I mean at least six innings/two or fewer earned runs, or at least seven innings/three or fewer earned runs — not the lame standard MLB uses).

    His ERA in those 82 starts? 2.19. And his record? 0-53! No misprint, folks — 0-53. Here are two most-galling year-by-year results: 1972 with Minnesota: 0-9 with a 2.35 ERA in 13 of the aforementioned starts, and 1974 with Minnesota: 0-8 with 1.80 ERA in 10 of the aforementioned starts."

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28564953/

    Maybe this will be his year.
     
  2. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I don't know if Blyleven will ever get in. Every sport's HoF has stories of guys who should be there, who never will be. This is one of those stories.

    I can't see Henderson missing a single vote. I don't like him as a person, but as a ballplayer, he was amazing.
     
  3. wildthing202

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    Jim Rice better get in this time.
     
  4. AlioTheFool

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    He's another guy I don't think will make his way in but probably deserves to.

    Don Mattingly too.

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    Donnie	1785	7003	1007	2153	442	20	222	1099	3301	588	444	14	9	.358	.471	.307 
    Rice	2089	8225	1249	2452	373	79	382	1451	4129	670	1423	58	34	.352	.502	.298
     
  5. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    He won't be a unanimous selection. I'd bet on that. That's a good idea, too. Can we get some vBookie action on all this?

    I think Tom Seaver still is in the lead as to being the closest to unanimity. He received 98 point something percent of the vote.
     
  6. wildthing202

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    Duh, there was an article on this already for some reason the writers never vote 100% on a guy no matter who it is. Some bs about tradition or something.
     
  7. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Hmph, I was totally unaware of that. I just assumed there had been unanimous picks before.

    That's freaking stupid. This is why former players should vote, not writers.
     
  8. wildthing202

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    HoF to be announced at 2 on MLB network.
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    There are apparently some writers who think that since Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth weren't unanimous, no one should be. Seaver is currently highest at 98.8%.

    It's already known for sure that Rickey won't be unanimous:

    http://deadspin.com/5125268/octogen...-henderson-off-his-hof-ballot-hilarity-ensues
     
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    Henderson gets in along with Rice.
     
  11. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Finally Jim Rice Is In!!!!!
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Rickey with only 94.8% of the vote (511/539).

    Congrats to Rice.
     
  14. AlioTheFool

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    Interesting. Congrats to both!
     
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    Henderson is a clear choice, I dont know about Rice so much though
     
  16. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Too many problems with players having the vote.
    The majority of the current players have no idea about the history of the sport.
    How many players would vote for ex-teammates even if the guy was just pretty good as opposed to great? On and on. Way too many issues.
     
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    It is thinks like this that doesn't allow me to take the HOF seriously. Whoever decided to not vote Cobb, Ruth, Seaver, etc should have their vote revoked immediately due to stupidity
     
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    I'm happy for Jim Rice getting in but Andre Dawson should have gotten in also. It'll be interesting next year to see if Barry Larkin and Edgar Martinez especially get in and if McGwire can get more votes.
     
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    I can see the point there. I just think sportswriters often don't factor in things that another player definitely would. You do make an excellent point though.
     
  20. Sundayjack

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    I can't wait to hear Ricky's HOF speech.

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q1kcftSGug[/YOUTUBE]

    Glad to see Jim Rice make in on his final ballot. I loved watching the guy in his prime.
     

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