What The Playoffs Show

All that matters is the W....

 

i agree with the idea of getting a franchise QB....however getting a veteran head coach couldn't hurt...

also i think those quarterbacks are franchise quarterbacks either because of their complementary running game or defense which allows them to perform...i feel that if a QB has a solid defense or running game or both they are going to perform at a high level....

in that list kurt warner is the only exception to that list rather than the 3 exceptions under the first scenario...

 

And I am sure they do have a lot of comebacks, however I can say that it was also a very manageable lead to make the comeback and that is the only type of game that they can comeback from. However they are weak to the kind of game where they fall behind by 14+. Or should I say it better in that without your running game or if it is limited in any way your team would struggle badly to be able to score any points period and as well as Ben has played in his career asking him for more than his game managing role tends to bring out the worst in him

 

Brees wouldn't have held up if he was on Pittsburgh playing the schedule they played. Rothlisberger is a big time playmaker who sees the entire field moves around and makes huge plays against great defenses while being banged around consistently. Brees is an indoor QB playing on carpet. Brees will out stat him all day Rothlisberger would have found a way to beat the Bears in a bad weather game to get his team to the SB. I'll take Ben every time.

The QB's for all 4 teams that are in the finals are not game managers they are their teams playmakers. They are all far more than game managers.

 

Here's the thing about QB's. We need to spend a 1st rounder on one.

Of the 8 that were listed, 6 were 1st round picks. The other two, interestingly enough, were undrafted. Top QB talent comes from the first round. The only semblance of stability at the QB position we had the past few years was due to Chad and Vinny, our only 1st round QB in the past 25 years and a 1st round QB imported from free agency. The only other 1st round QB's we've drafted are Ken O'Brien, Richard Todd and Joe Namath. Say what you want about the bust-rate of 1st round QB's but 2nd round and later round QB's bust much more often. I haven't been a proponent of drafting a QB early in the past, but I really believe we need to draft a young QB in the 1st and start from there.

 

Here is the playoffs are showing me: If you look at all the teams that are in the playoffs (including the ones that lost this last weekend), the common thread to me is that, when these teams play good teams they put up a good fight and when they play bad teams they kick their ass. There are always exceptions - any given Sunday and all that and sometimes things just don't fall your way.

But the reality is that, for way too long, the Jets motto is basically "Barely Beating Bad Teams." There were too many games this season where the Jets played a team that kept shooting themselves in the foot and then wound up just barely playing better and winning the game (Miami, Cincy, KC, Buffalo). That's not how you build a playoff team.

And I won't even mention the games where a team that played like shit BEAT the Jets but there were a few of those too.

 

That nails it.

I'm not a huge McNabb fan, but he was unbelievable yesterday.

 

This playoff shows two things:

1. Defense wins.
2. Passing loses. Run the damn ball. Even Cardinals are pounding the rock with revived Edge. Go pass happy and lose the game. Again, this is corollary to #1. Playoff-calibre teams are too good on defense, that if you are in a situation where you are FORCED to pass, basically you are fucked.

 

Even the Cards' D looked better than the Jets D. I know that Mangini's departure is not the subject matter of this thread, but the failure to have built a quality D was not only a huge factor in the December Collapse. It also means if the Jets had somehow backed into the playoffs, they would not have had the fairy tale like experience of the Ravens or Eagles.

Having had three years to work with the D, Mangini ran out of time. Good riddance.

 

McNabb like Flacco and Ben is a big strong guy who can see the field under pressure and make throws while being banged around. That's a huge quality in these close to the vest defensive struggles. One or two plays that can be made by shaking off a hit is the difference between points and field position in these games.

 

McNabb didn't look too good giving up that safety. I would not overrate his contribution - the Giants basically gave that game away, and the Eagles front seven denied those fourth down attempts. If the Giants had converted they might have still won the game. That is if Manning could have gotten some decent passes off, a requirement that he seemed not to be up to.

Not to talk too much about that game, but obviously the Giants were a much different team without Burress.

 

I can't help but wonder if those were Favre's thoughts also, when asked about "managing" the games. He never thought of himself as a "game manager" and almost mocked the concept, saying he just plays and was not even sure what it meant to manage a game.

And his answer almost certainly smacked of mocking Mangini in a way, because we all know Mangini had a tendency to over-analyze and almost micro-manage a position in a way... even overthinking it, perhaps, and insisting that players do the same thing.

I think Favre was trying to say, in a polite way, that you can take your "management responsibilties" and shove them, because they don't mean squat if you can't just sling the ball under pressure.

 

Huge hole for the Giants yesterday. Not to hijack the thread, but yeah, there's even talk this morning in the Star Ledger that the Giants will consider bringing Plax back again next year. That took all of about two hours for those rumors to begin surfacing.

The Giants missed Plaxico almost as much as the THREAT of Plaxico. We need that kind of threat too... big time. One good, ass-kicking WR could change the dynamics of our offense, IMO.

 

1 player does not make a team. Though I will agree losing Plaxico messed up the chemistry between Eli and his WRs would it have changed the outcome of the game.I doubt it.

 

I'm not so sure about that. The Star-Ledger pointed out this morning that before Plax's suspension, Eli had completed 62% of his passes and had a passer rating of 91.3.

In the five games after the suspension, Eli completed only 54% and had a rating of only 63.6.

 

McNabb played great the safety not only didn't hurt them but in my opinion helped them. Instead of punting from the back of the end zone they got a free kick and pinned the Giants back near their own 20. In a game like yesterdays the 2 points were worth the field position at that point in the game. If he didn't ground the ball it's a safety if he gets out of the endzone they are punting at the back line of the endzone or worse risking a turnover in a game that was all about field position. If he is a smaller guy you might well have had a turnover and TD for the Giants right there.

 

You make it sound as if they planned to take the safety!

It only turned out alright since the Giants did not field the punt well.

Anyway, I don't mean to argue with a Giants fan about a game I didn't care all that much about, but it seemed to me the Giants lost the game as much as the Eagles won it, and the Eagles won it more because of their front seven than anything else.

 

I know quite a few Eagles fans down there in Ocean County and the interesting thing about Eagles fans this year is that 5 or 6 weeks ago they wanted McNabb to stay benched and Andy Reid fired.

I'm sure there's a different tune today....