Mangini is going into a very good situation in Cleveland. The team is loaded on the O side has their franchise QB and runs his D. He also is going to get a highly paid staff and have the opportunity to get some good coaches because he is the first hire. Jets coaches who have been fired generally don't do well elswhere. The SOJ seems to follow them around. I suspect we will have one or two I told you so moments followed by years of mediocrity. He still is the 3rd best HC in his division as of today.
It seems like the Browns didn't really give anyone else consideration. They held interviews but after they lost out on Cowher they pretty much locked in on Mangini. Sort of like what we did in 2006.
I had thought Ryan was under contract until I saw this last night. I'm surprised Davis would let him go, he wouldn't last year. Not that it matters but this is also in that article. "Mangini will hire Jets quarterbacks coach Brian Daboll, whose contract is expiring, as his offensive coordinator, league sources told Smith." Mangini is true to form and willing to hire any smuck to be the OC. They are doomed in Cleveland too.
If he really gets away with Rob Ryan and Brain Daboll I would be sooooooooooo pissed off considering I wanted Daboll to be the Jets offensive coordinator, since two seasons ago
It's interesting...Rob Ryan never had any say in the Oakland defense at all. He was just a puppet for what Al Davis wanted him to run. Daboll has no more experience then Schittenheimer had when he got here so really both are like rookies. I don't know why but Mangini always seems intimidated about hiring somebody that knows more than he does. Maybe it's his insecurity about being replaced by one of them when he fails again.
Mangini is this years Chad I said this the day he was fired. Mangini will go 12-4 and be coach of the year, its just the Jets luck. And I was glad he was fired, can't stand someonme that can't answer a simple question honestly.
And Peter King said "no way" when asked if Mangini had a shot at the job. Seems like these "insiders" are like weathermen, they hardly ever have to be right! Good luck Mangini.
Yes they did and that's why Pioli might not sign with them and we know a GM want's to hire his own HC....I wonder if the GM will have any say as to who the Coordinators are.
Hiring a coach before you hire a GM is not necessarily a mistake... even hiring the Assistants to boot. You have to look at the landscape of coaching jobs across the NFL. There are a ton of jobs open.. the team that gets his HC first is going to have a chance to fill his ranks with some quality assistant coaches... If we manage to fart around long enough in a new HC search we are likely to be picking up scraps left after other teams begin making offers and filling their own ranks. I don't think we should just jump in and hire just anyone, but we need to organize, interview and make up our $#!@$!ing minds soon.
Totally agree. And I'm not concerned about what Mangini does or doesn't do. I think people on this board concern themselves far too much with what happens to ex-coaches and ex-players. We need to take care of our own business and make this staff whole again. We've got a Combine and Draft coming up and we need to have everyone on the same page and firing on all cylinders. That means the new coach has a lot of game film to watch, so that he knows where he's going with every position on the team and can then sit down with Tannenbaum and target what the hell they want to do.
Just listened to Mangini's intro press conf with the Browns. Geez, this guy is such a drip it's incredible he's a head football coach. He inspires absolutely NO confidence whatsoever with his lame quasi-intellectual phrases about teamwork and vision etc. Just put it in laymen's terms you freaking nerd. This is football, not professional chess, the players and fans don't need to be patronized with sanctimonious bullcrap. They want smart, hard nosed, fiery football. Good riddance dork.
I have a feeling we'll have more than a few 'I told you so' moments as long as Woody has his hands in this pie. But, yeah, I doubt Mangini could dream of a better situation after being canned by the Jets.
Mangini is so full of it. "I have a vision and that vision is about what I call, truth in sports". Yeah, ok whatever. Perhaps if you had a "vision" that concentrated on "blitzing the QB" and giving your best offensive player the ball (#29) more than 3x a game you would be coaching in the playoffs.
He also is playing that old "players of character" bullshit. Know what you get when you choose a player for character rather than talent? 40 years of futility. Good luck, Cleveland.
NFL.com says he doesn't have any coordinators yet. I find it harsh Rob Ryan wouldn't want to wait and coach with his brother.
When is the last time a Jets coach was fired, exactly? I think it was sometime in the last decade/millennium! Dude, I really respect most of your posts here, but, sorry, this one is off the mark.
