2008-2009 Yankees Off-Season Thread

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  1. IATA

    IATA Trolls

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    ManTrain into the new stadium.
     
  2. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    haha, well I got a mini van so ill be happy to drive....especially considering your delicious offer
     
  3. AlioTheFool

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    He said he'd provide the roadhead, not accept it.
     
  4. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Now I'm just waiting for the season to start.

    Plus softball season too.
     
  5. GQMartin

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    On Yankees.com why do all of the games have MLB.TV in the schedule boxes?
     
  6. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    I was wondering why you hadnt jumped in and offered to drive....makes sense now
     
  7. AlioTheFool

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    Because I don't want roadhead from another dude, nor do I wish to fellate him either?

    Uh, yeah, makes perfect sense to me actually...
     
  8. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    blah blah,.....whos in charge of getting tickets for the great gang green yankee stadium trip?
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Has this trip ever actually happened before? I know it's been spoken of every year for at least the past two seasons, but I don't recall it ever actually happening.
     
  11. AlioTheFool

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    Haha, I was reading some of the comments at the end of that article. You can see the bitter hatred from the Boston fans.
     
  12. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Still no word on Pettitte..I assume the offer has been pulled but everybody is keeping it very quiet. Damn, what a coincidence. As soon as I post this I then go to the Yankee page and see this. My guess now is they go with Hughes or try to get Sheets on a short term deal.

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news...t_id=3733806&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

    "Andy Pettitte still wants to rejoin the Yankees, and the Yankees want the veteran back in pinstripes.

    But dollars may prevent a happy reunion for the longtime stalwart, who could be ready to walk away from his stated hopes of pitching in the club's new stadium.

    The New York Times reported late Monday that Pettitte has rejected the Yankees' one-year, $10 million offer, and the Yankees no longer have a standing offer for the 36-year-old left-hander. "
     
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    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    Alio, its never happened. And im sure this year will be no different haha
     
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3813025

    Comment Email Print ESPN.com news services

    Andy Pettitte may not be returning to the New York Yankees after all.




    Pettitte
    The left-handed starter has rejected the Yankees' one-year, $10 million offer, The New York Times reported, citing a person with knowledge of the negotiations.

    The door does not appear closed on Pettitte returning to New York. The New York Daily News reported that according to a person close to the situation, Yankees GM Brian Cashman has "had dialogue" in recent days with Pettitte's agents, Randy and Alan Hendricks.

    "Andy's a free agent, and the one thing I've been consistent in saying is that we'd like to have Andy back," Cashman said last month, according to the Daily News. "I know he'd like to come back. That's set up for maybe a positive end result. It doesn't guarantee it."

    Last month, Pettitte told the Times that he wanted to return to the Yankees but was leaving the matter to his agents. Randy Hendricks did not respond to an e-mail message on Monday, the Times reported.



    But there's the issue of money.

    The $10 million offer Pettitte reportedly rejected would represent a $6 million decrease from the $16 million the Yankees paid Pettitte last year. And that comes at the same time the team has pledged $180 million to first baseman Mark Teixeira and a combined $243.5 million for starting pitchers CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett.

    There's also the question of what direction the Yankees want to go in with their pitching staff. The Daily News reported that according to baseball sources, there is a difference of opinion within the Yankees on whether to bring Pettitte back as a No. 4 or 5 starter, or let young pitchers such as Phil Hughes and Alfredo Aceves compete for spots at the back of the rotation.

    Pettitte went 14-14 with a 4.54 ERA last season, after starting the year at the center of baseball's performance-enhancing drugs scandal.

    Pettitte, 36, waited until early December of 2007 to tell the Yankees he would return in 2008. That was before the release of the Mitchell report, which included Pettitte, and he had not told the Yankees he might be included in the report, which said he had used human growth hormone. He subsequently admitted using HGH and was supported publicly by the Yankees.

    See ya later Andy, dont let the door hit you in the ass. The biggest ohony there is this homo. And hes completely finished. He fagged out of NY the first time because we didnt show him enough love bkah blah. He ran down to houston to pitch with his lover. And then he ratted his lover out while lying about his own usage of the juice!!!! Fuck him. See you later. I guess God told him 10 million wasnt enough. If the Yankees even offer this cunt 10,000,001 I wont watch a game this year
     
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  15. 17a_tailgater

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    $10 million for a #5 ?????????? come on pettite. he is a #4 on another team and is not getting the home town discount. this is not a mets fan ranking on a yankee either.
     
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    Yeah, I didn't think so, hahaha.
     
  17. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    granted salaries are ridiculous. But does this vagina really deserve more than 10 mil for his rancid season last year? am I to assume his numbers will improve this year or decline? Fuck him. For every big game he won for us, he blew up in another. Including the almost every "big game" last year.
     
  18. AlioTheFool

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    I don't think you'll see a lot of arguments contrary to yours.

    He's a #5 on this team, maybe a 4 on others. Add in that the Yankees stood behind him after the Mitchell report, the fact that they offered him $10M in the first place after last season's second-half, the fact that he's spent time on the DL, the fact that he's not young anymore, and the fact that he said he only wanted to pitch for the Yankees in the new Stadium this year, and what does he really expect?

    I've said I'd compromise and give him $12, simply as a nod to his history with the team, but if he keeps pushing, he'll spend next year like Vinny Testaverde, eating potato chips on the couch and talking about how "I can still do that."

    $10 was nice, $12 would have been gracious. If he thinks he can get $16 from anywhere I'd like to see him try.
     
  19. 17a_tailgater

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    Look at the peripherals, though. Pettitte's LD% is where it was in 2007. His K rate was up. His BB rate was down. His GB% was actually waaaay up from years past. Typically, that's a good thing, but it does offer an explanation for his apparent struggles last year, given how putrid the Yankee infield defense was last season.

    I'm not saying the Yanks should give him $16 million. But he's a proven innings eater who looked to have some shitty luck (and defense) last year. He's more valuable than some of you are making him out to be. Especially if the Yanks want to get the most out of Joba's 140 innings next year, the other Yankee starters need to eat a lot of innings.

    And to judge salary by his perceived rotation slot is silly for a number of reasons. One, Pettitte would likely be pitching more as a #4, due to Joba's innings cap and Pettitte's ability to throw 200 each year. Two, you pay for performance/talent... not where they fit into your rotation. That's why Burnett got $16.5 million, even though he might eventually line up behind CC, Wang, and Joba.
     

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